“Don't compete! — competition is always injurious to the species, and you have plenty of resources to avoid it!”
:kropotkin-shining:
Edit: Did U Kno: If this post gets 100 upbears, all sports worldwide will be outlawed.
Sorry, but I don’t make the rules.
Edit2:
🎉WE DID IT CHAPOS! 🎉
All competition is now forbidden.
If you engage in it, please report to the nearest reeducation center immediately.
yup this is definitely how we create a mass movement lol jesus christ
Nah, how you create a mass movement is by realizing capitalism and competitiveness are bound to each other in a base superstructure relationship, and first try to encourage cooperation amongst the working class, both through workplace organizing, and through pushing back on the entrenched idea that competition is the only way to have fun and cooperation is boring.
But that's not how you start a struggle shesh, tho.
yeah good luck telling people football is bad and they need to have “cooperative” recreation. lol
bringing up the premise at all is just out of touch imo
you can have sports. more local leagues! gets people social and fit and playing, fuck yeah!
but pro sports are nonsense bullshit based on toxic ideas.
oh i think most people would agree pro sports could be done better and would go local if given equal options. or at least its a MUCH better option than you’re a bad person for enjoying thing you like bc its abstractly competitive thus anti kroptkin or something
and playful competition is cool. that was never the problem. kropotkin had reasons behind his arguments, they were mostly illuminated, and so should not be taken as dogma, even if some of them only make sense at a scale where there's a gap between cause and effect where a dollop of faith in your reasoning/humanity/whateverelse may be required in leiu of patience.
hey, maybe this isn't the place I go to spout watered down lib shit coddle-the-feelings-of-the-complicit-to-ween-them-off-fascism bullshit, and im using this as a space to be honest about what I feel because not every single fucking place on the internet has to be so fucking precious about telling people who liked fucked up shit "yes, I know you love cheap shoes, but concentration camps aren't quite the greatest, wouldn't you rather they just be work camps where you got to have new shoes?"
Just as out of touch as telling people who don't ever think we'll progress beyond capitalism, that we need to?
A society where we no longer play competitive leisure sports doesn't seem any more far fetched to me than a society where the law of value is abolished.
wait is this not a bit this is really dumb
Welcome to hexbear.chat
Isn't it so much better, now that we can't downvote anymore?
IKR?
i hate struggle sessions so much lmao let me know how that pitch for socialism goes for you. because you literally sound like a dystopian version of what they think the left is.
Sitting in circles playing pattycake is like a jordan peterson strawman argument come to life
If competitive pattycake exists, it shouldn't.
That's my genuine belief, btw.
the core concepts of sports aren't bad. playing is fun. more playing! including of sports I guess!
its the myth making in how we enjoy them that's the problem, and intimately bound with capitalism and the myth of the discrete individual separate from their material conditions.
this sounds fine if you frame it like “I just like good sportsmanship and playing on a team” people will super duper be on board.
just dont get all weird when telling this to a an average working person is apolitical maybe. sometimes it feels like it we are begging them to run to conservatives lol
hey, this seems a little close to tone policing. this isn't a space for dialogue with moderates, and that's why it doesn't sound like one. if you would like it to sound like one, might I suggest buying some high end sex toys, spending some time getting to know yourself, and then coming back to the conversation?
its problematic shit, and unless you're talking about yourself (in which case: buy cheap ones instead, or use household objects like a lightbulb and literally anything from /r/dontputyourdickinthat) this really really isn't the place. when im trying to talk to dumbfuck mushbrained libs, ill talk to dumbfuck moderate mushbrained libs. my thoughts and internal articulation, as expressed here, will be as they are.