Personally: Fuck that, I ain't doin' it.
I'm just sick of all this shit and pissed off that it isn't over by now like China.
What frustrated me most is that we could still fucking do that.
There's no "too late sorry honey" for enforcing a real lockdown. No, you see, cases, deaths, and hospitalizations are down slightly over the last couple of weeks, so it's time to reopen further.
Hey back to work as a blood sacrifice to American empire.
It would take a hell of a lot more than a 2-week lockdown. Countries that have done a good job of keeping infection rates low, like China and S Korea have kept this shit under control with some fucking hardcore efforts which have been constantly maintained. In South Korea, they've utilized the power of mass surveillance to track everyone at all times. When there was an outbreak at a gay club last summer the South Korean government used cell phone and credit card data to identify thousands of people that were in the area and sent them cell phone notifications demanding that they quarantine and get tested or face fines/jail time. This probably led to hundreds or maybe even more than a thousand people getting outed (most unmarried Koreans still live at home with mom and dad, you can imagine what people might conclude when an unmarried ~30-year-old man calls into work and says he needs to quarantine for 2 weeks, the same day as a big news story comes out about an outbreak that was started by a gay man). They made similar steps when there was an outbreak at a cult church early on in like Feb or Jan of 2020
China is, to my understanding, has a similar tracking program, using QR codes or something.
And honestly, like, I'm not even saying that SK has handled covid the wrong way, because the efforts that the govt is putting in has probably saved hundreds, if not thousands of lives, but we shouldn't act like there's a simple solution, like a 2-week quarantine would get the numbers down and keep them down with no other effort.
Obviously, the NSA is already collecting data like that on us all the time (in spite of it being flagrantly unconstitutional), and I see the argument of like "well, they're already collecting that data might as well use it" but frankly, it seems pretty scary to me to think about how something like that would normalize mass surveillance. The idea of the US empire utilizing the power of mass surveillance and the carceral state to do what they're doing in Asia is pretty freaky tbh
Mass surveillance is already normalized in this country. The NSA spying news was met with a mild shrug from the American collective consciousness. No one cares.
Its normalized and gets shrugged off because its unobtrusive. We know the data gets collected, but it get sent off to some data storage complex in Utah where no one looks at it, except probably a computer program that automatically searches for some keywords.
That's a far cry from getting a message that basicslly says "we know you were out clubbing on friday. Go get tested or we're gonna send the cops to your house to throw your ass in jail." Or something like this
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51733145
As I sit at home, my phone beeps alarmingly with emergency alerts. "A 43-year-old man, resident of Nowon district, tested positive for coronavirus," it says. "He was at his work in Mapo district attending a sexual harassment class. He contracted the virus from the instructor of the class." A series of alerts then chronicle where the men had been, including a bar in the area until 11:03 at night. These alerts arrive all day, every day, telling you where an infected person has been - and when. You can also look up the information on the Ministry of Health and Welfare website. No names or addresses are given, but some people are still managing to connect the dots and identify people. The public has even decided two of the infected were having an affair.
Essentially, there is no good option in Amerikkka. There is no simple solution because any potential ones are ruined by the US state.
It sounds like the most brain-dead way to get mask use numbers up. 50% of people are wearing no masks, 50% are wearing 2 masks, on average everyone is wearing a mask so the virus should stop spreading please.
IDK if it's effective, but god damn does it seem precision engineered to strain the patience even of people who took the precautions seriously until now
I feel like if the feds had just bought us all a few boxes of N95s, we'd be past this shit by now.
Any action to decrease covid's infectivity will significantly reduce the number of people infected, but I also feel bitter and this is clearly an unpopular move that will be quickly offset by the further reopening of the economy
Downvote.
The bad strains are already here, dude. Put your fucking double mask on.
My take is this, f you’re not willing to lock down and eliminate it, all you’re doing with half measures is applying selection pressure, assuring the only strains that survive are the beastly fuck-you strains. Idk though, that’s just my feeling.
There is usually a trade-off between infectiousness/contagiousness, and deadliness. Selecting for a higher r value will decrease the death/serious injury rate in a lot of cases (not all tho)
Ah, bad news for us then! With a 1% fatality rate, there's mostly just room for it to go up i guess.
Ah it's ok i'm pretty depressed actually, no real loss was had ;-)
Honestly, I'm willing to trust the science.
That being said, it feels like the government is wanting to avoid actually helping the people and is only implementing half-measures, such as so-called essential workers still working with out hazard pay and partial lockdowns (if that), while trying to put the onus back on the regular people.
Felix seemed to have predicted this this last November.
Covid is the neoliberal strategy of tension and Felix or Christman will steal this is idea from me without giving any credit or compensation. Menaker stole the "President Xi fire at will" bit from me already.
that's such a massive claim that i'm gonna have to believe you
:deng-salute: excellent bit
But I mean, it's a derivative enough bit so it's not impossible that it was just coincidence
I mean, just get a mask that actually works well, and you won't need to wear 2.
exactly, if you don't seal the masks (like a neck gaiter) then you actually disperse the droplets MORE and make yourself a bigger vector. Then you probably walk right next to people for a moment here and there at the grocery store or whatever, becaue hey, i'm wearing two masks here! No need to distance for me, ey, buddy! I'm taken precautions over heaah! And that's how libby mcLibFace becomes a superspreader with their american flag and biden 2020 cloth masks. Feckless commodity fetishists.
https://advances.sciencemag.org/content/6/36/eabd3083
direct link to the study that shows they increase transmission.
i for one prefer a giant rolling bubble of polystyrene coupled with a snorkel mask, it makes me feel and sound like the toddler i am.
Dumb shit being done because they still refuse to commit to telling people to wear N95s.
Yes I still do it over an N95.
I don't see why it would be a problem. If the science says it is effective...?
I know this whole thing sucks, but these are the cards we have been given.
Obviously it works but I'm not about to do it.
A. It shouldn't have taken a year to tell people to double mask
B. The inefficiency of cloth masks should have been a central talking point after 6 months in when n95 masks started to become more easily available.
C. They should have sent out masks to every postal customer like they were planning to do.
D. Even though we are certainly at pandemic numbers it's hard to take this shit seriously because of how hyped and poorly handled it was.
E. 1984
While all of that is legit criticism.
None of it is a good reason not to doubke mask. Most of it is reasons to do so.
It'd be an honour to get your unique coronavirus strain, Mr Musk, sir
