I don’t have the energy to go through it. Buts the someone else can see what he’s saying? And dunk on it?
Haven't heard of Hakim, haven't seen him ever mentioned here either.
Takes?
I think he is pretty good. Nice to have more voices from outside the imperial core.
His introduction videos like "Capitalism really sucks, but why?" are decent short primers for people who are interested in socialism but are completely unread.
Very good, and his video recommending other good people is good. Now I'm in the ML-sphere on YouTube, which I never would have thought existed, watching Hakim, Vikki1999, Paul Morin and Yugopnik. They are all good
On the downside, you have once again vaush posted so now I'm like this :marx-angry: You coward, you don't even have the dignity to Watch your own filthy vaush post, forcing the rest of us to think about him without even putting in the work.
On the upside, Vaush is making the classic mistake of bringing further attention to his whipping by Hakim, so that's probably going to work out to be a net positive.
He says people like himself end up getting their throats slit by people like Hakim so yeah pick your poison.
Edit: by poison I mean the blatant racist dog whistle or the blatant..........insanity of the take.
He says people like himself end up getting their throats slit by people like Hakim so yeah pick your poison.
Critical support for comrade Hakim and the MLers
Unbelievably melodramatic anyway bc even if you meet him on his own terms in the abstract here in America it’s the other way around in like 99.99 cases out of 100
Sick, that's like a Vaush version of the Chris Matthews 'central park' meme.
They're still mad about what Trotsky did to Mahkno's Khanate I guess.
Probably. I just mean anti-communist anarchists in general when they say tankies killed anarchists.
Oh I thought you used the singular they. Lol. True. Insert Parenti's article here.
Why did I read the comments on that video :agony-deep:
"MLism is nothing, it has no tenants or ideologies. it's just a defense of whatever authoritarian government needs to do to oppress it people."
"MLism is an ideology invented by authoritarians like Stain to describe their beliefs. Makes sense that they act indistinguishably from nazis on twitter."
"ML as a term and as a concept was literally invented by stalin to describe the state ideology of the soviet union. Lenin himself never used the terms leninism or marxism-leninism. That was stalin. The whole cult of personality around lenin was created by stalin to legitimize his own rule. Why would anyone use such a term to describe himself? If you are not a fucking lunatic stalinist, that is? Which is what most of these ppl are, apparently."
Lenin himself never used the terms leninism or marxism-leninism.
Marx didn't use the word Marxism. Darwin didn't use the term Darwinism. etc.
Christianity as a term and as a concept was literally invented by Constantine to describe the state ideology of Rome. Jesus H. Christ himself never used the terms Christian or Christianity. That was Constantine. The gnostic cults around Christ were co-opted by Constantine to legitimize his own rule. Why would anyone use such a term to describe himself? If you are not a fucking lunatic Constantinist, that is? Which is what most of these ppl are, apparently. Checkmate Christians.
whoops this one is actually a better argument now that I've completely recontextualized it and added a spicy dash of my own historical revisionism, but in all seriousness what the fuck kinda quarter-baked points are these?
I changed the words around in the same quote you were responding to from the top-level comment, so it's a heavily-edited version of a youtube comment on a V*ush video
Ha, jokes on them, I'm a TROT. Yeah that's right I fucking said it and you all can't downvote me.
At 9 minutes: "I sincerely doubt that Hakim will ever talk to me again. Usually that's what happens with these people, they dip their toes in the water and once they realize it's too hot for them they dip out"
:michael-laugh: :agony: :agony-acid: :agony-consuming:
He says, completely oblivious that he's doing exactly that. omg libs
Mentioning Vaush. That's a paddlin'.
Posting a video with Vaush. That's a paddlin'.
Posting Vaush's own video? Ooooh, you better believe that's a paddlin'.Mods, make this an emoji. " :paddlin: "
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/238/220/80a.gif
I think that was part of his point though, that he and Hakim were cordial but Hakim was liking a bunch of anti-Vaush tweets in the interim.
Who hasnt made jerkoff hand motions while talking to someone barely worth respecting?
Kautsky has actually contributed to the socialist movement.
It was later, then he got relentlessly dunked on, and he fully deserved it, but earlier he actively promoted and developed Marxism, significantly contributing to its spread.
That basically describes every "bREadTuBeR" including Hasan and Shaun and Harris and Wynn. Not saying that's a bad thing.
Except... Hasan's a full-time doctor in Iraq who spends the majority of his time saving lives or studying medical texts while doing the whole YouTube thing in his free time.
I honestly don't think any other "breadtuber" remotely can be compared to the guy
Edit: I confused our big tushied sexy socdem himbo for our soothingly smooth-voiced ML daddy. They're both worth their weight in gold in comparison to the breadtubers lol.
Oh yeah that one. Got the two mixed up. I blame his massive dumpie for fooling me.
You should edit your comment and strike through the entire thing. You don't know who I am but i have more in common with Hakim than 97% of the people here. Being this wrong and not acknowledging it even after an hour is cowardly behavior. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that it didn't occur to you to do that and you assumed it wasn't needed. To show that it is indeed needed, notice that at least 2 other members thought you were right.
Edit: also Hakim doesn't stream on twitch.
In their defense, they say they're socdems and say socdem things. Vaush claims to be an anarchist revolutionary.
That's not a defense.
is not someone you should get your leftist (emphasis mine) takes from.
socdems aren't leftists so it still stands
they say they’re socdems
I'll need a citation on that one. It would especially surprise me if Hasan called himself a socdem. The other 3 have purposely not called themselves anything because they are cowards.
Sorry I thought you were saying they go against what they claim to be. They still suck, but at least they're more honest about what they are then Vaush is.
Watching Vaush talk makes me want to cut my hair short and get rid of my beard so people won’t assume I’ve got similar takes.
hakim broke his brain lol
well, broke his brain further
As a former Vaush fan, I still cannot tolerate him. Anything he says is stupid as fuck
I also used to watch his videos, he dunks good on dumb right wing talking points but holy shit he is completely politically illiterate when it comes to actual socialist theory and practice. I tolerated his dumbass takes on AES for a while but I bailed eventually.
It's just Destiny all over again. Why can't they stick to dunking on chuds and nazis? Or better yet, read theory? Is is physically impossible to be a debate bro and not say misinformed shit about leftism?
Is is physically impossible to be a debate bro and not say misinformed shit about leftism
They are correctly informed by their petty bourgeois class positions, it's simply the opposite of what workers want.
It gets old eventually, especially if you just pump out low effort slop. Look how the sceptic community moved on from dunking on creationists to trying to dunk on feminism.
Gets them more imaginary clout, makes them think they’re winning the culture war
Yeah. He appeared in my recommendations back when he had like 8k subs in early 2019, left the community after people stopped holding him accountable for his shitty opinions
He started being openly racist. I assume he was racist before then but he wasn’t openly racist immediately
He was fine up until he went onto the killstream, which was this thing where he went to debate a bunch of dumbass nazis. During the stream, to prove a point, he said the hard r. After the stream, he pretty much just doubled down on his n word usage and said he was justified. I left shortly after, alongside some other black anarchists who were pissed
hard to get mad about some dude saying voldemort or whatever, but im sure hes obnoxious
"it doesn't mean anything... it just gets pulled into whatever state-defending authoritarian-justifying bullshit it needs to to represent the interests of state leaders, so it doesn't mean anything..."
This guy somehow even less coherent in text, also this is really just amusing projection considering the entire body of his work is babbling from an armchair and loudly asserting whatever the state department line is on AES countries.
