You will never see a more disgusting place than YouTube. An algorithm that pushes the most disgusting content like gore and trauma and the comment section of even the most benign video will have some chud shitting on feminists or whatever with a million updoots. Absolute shithole of a content farm website.

[Sexism] I was just watching a wholesome video of a rooster protecting the flock from a hawk, and the highest comment was like "Hurr duurrr I bet this triggers feminists seeing hens run in fear while the rooster takes charge."

Bruh, no, what is triggering is how illiterate misogynists are about the animal world. Imagine choosing hens as your proof that women are weak. Hens, the gender of chickens that also attack predators regularly. Hens, the gender of chickens that are where scientists came up with the term 'Alpha'. Hens, the gender of chickens that can literally change their gender.

link because I'm not a lib, this person deserves bullying tbh but I doubt it's worth wasting time on

And then, to top it all off, in the recommendeds was a thumbnail of a real picture of a squirrel gored up after being shot with a pellet gun, with the title "Watch this before YouTube deletes it" smuglord

So yeah, youtube is fucked up trash.

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    I'm being a real boomer here, but facebook (and by extension Instagram) is easily the worst place on the internet for me. I can't curate my content in any way and most of what I get on my feed is garbage mainstream "culture" war bullshit and libertarian pages. Like I get 20 different libertarian/right-wing posts recommended to me for every one leftest post. And I know I have high school/work acquaintances that are right wingers, but I know it can't be significantly more than the average lib or leftists that I know..

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      Yeah FB was by far the easiest platform to drop, even without the realization people I knew irl were raving fascists it just got anxiety inducing checking what I said because it might turn up on someone's feed.

      • quarrk [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        LinkedIn is amazing — I never knew so many of my highschool classmates would grow up to be CEOs and company presidents!

  • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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    9 months ago

    huh most of the youtube comment sections i actually look at are decent, and i don't get recommended gore or rightwing shit.

    i've only clicked on trending by accident and i don't watch shorts... i hear about stuff like elsagate or what OP is reporting but my account is pretty under control. like i used to watch a bunch of slay the spire videos and after clicking "don't recommend channel" on three of them it stopped recommending them to me

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
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      9 months ago

      It's partially my fault for not making an account.

      I wonder if default YouTube is bad on purpose to force more people to make an account and/or allow their personalization algos

      • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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        9 months ago

        the average high-engagement person probably has terrible taste and interests.

        the pro move on youtube might be to have one account for each topic, but i'm too lazy for that

      • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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        9 months ago

        I use NewPipe on mobile, let's you sub to channels without an account and you can hide the trending tab in the settings.

          • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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            9 months ago

            Yeah I find it helps minimize the time I spend looking at YT when there's no recommended tab, the only drawback that I really notice is there's no channel playlists which is really only an irritation when there's dozens/hundreds of videos for that channel. Does let you turn your phone screen off and automatically blocks ads though.

            https://newpipe.net/

  • wahwahwah [none/use name]
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    9 months ago

    Both suck, but redditers are uniquely smug in a way that makes every dumb thing they say a million times more insufferable. Anyone who adds ´fuck around and find out’ to the end of their racist screeds probs works for that army base that was voted most Reddit obsessed way back in the day.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    9 months ago

    Reddit is frustrating because it's a site of people who think themselves to be intellectuals saying the stupidest shit. Youtube is full of people who know they aren't intellectuals and don't care. Combine that with organized commenting brigades and you have a right-wing cesspool. The type of people who comment usually have an axe to grind and will more likely be some kind of right-winger if they aren't a stan of the Youtuber they're watching.

    The comments on videos about the Israel-Palestine conflict have actually been better than Reddit's from what I've seen.

    • Dirt_Owl [comrade/them, they/them]
      hexagon
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      9 months ago

      I swear I try not to read the comments on Youtube but every now and again I catch them by mistake and am like internet-delenda-est

    • voight [he/him, any]
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      9 months ago

      What bothers me the most rn about Youtube is how sycophantic all of the comments are honestly. There's nothing related to the material unless it's like music (people argue over their fave albums) It's just "wow you are so smart :)"

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        9 months ago

        It kind of reminds me of the type of people who call into radio shows. You either get big fans or people who want to gripe and heckle.

  • RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her]
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    9 months ago

    But on YouTube you get so many weird comments like,

    "I don't know who you are or where your from or your life, but don't worry. Things will get better. We are connected by music in this beautiful world, and you have yet to sing your song. Peace"

    • Egon [they/them]
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      9 months ago

      And it's a comment on an imagine dragons song

    • wahwahwah [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      I dunno, those comments feel super fake because they’re usually under videos that don’t feature ‘’’’’politics’’’’ (i.e. minorities, women) that might trigger the same commenters. Basically, anything that’s just white dudes playing the guitar.

    • WeedReference420 [he/him, they/them]
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      9 months ago

      I used to get incredibly loud and grating Falun Gong adverts going on about how Gommunist China had killed 500 billion people or whatever halfway through videos of rain noises or whatever I'd put on when I slept, it was incredibly unpleasant. Big ups c/libre for giving me instructions on how to download Newpipe lmao

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    9 months ago

    I'm of the opposite opinion. I think Reddit is worse than Youtube. Youtube comments tends to stay on topic, for lack of a better word, while Reddit would always find ways to cram their reactionary bullshit. Youtube comments on a video about knitting would just be about knitting while Reddit comments on a Reddit post about knitting would somehow find ways to shoehorn how China is evil or various other US state department talking points. Plus, Youtube is a lot more international than Reddit, which is full of Anglos.

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
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      9 months ago

      sometimes i wonder how the fuck those reddit comment threads devolve like that and then i remember the site is basically ran by the CIA and military intelligence

      it just seems so unnatural and weird especially for what's generally thought of as a "hobby website/forum"

        • Des [she/her, they/them]
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          9 months ago

          true. i still can't help but read those comment chains like a human conversation in my head sometimes and i was on reddit for like 10 years

    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      Youtube: something resembling an actual international community

      Reddit: 80% angloid men in danger of breaking into a rant about China at any given moment on any given thread about any given topic

    • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      Redditors also think they're smarter than everybody else, when in actual fact they might just be dumber, because there is enough information posted on Reddit by nerds and people qualified in their fields on mainstream subreddits, that the general redditor should know better.

      Case in point: Redditors on the formula one subreddit downvoting actual verified formula one engineers because they went against the Reddit narrative. Redditors on the soccer subreddit not knowing the basic rules of the game

  • DayOfDoom [any, any]
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    9 months ago

    YouTube comments are regularly Nazi-level shit on anything even remotely political. Reddit is like one tiny step above that and assuming your response doesn't get deleted you can actually embarrass them potentially whereas libidinal drivel is the only thing that thrives on fashtube.

      • DayOfDoom [any, any]
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        9 months ago

        Yeah.

        I watch retro video game content and you get some real brainworms in there from the bigoted nostalgia addicts there.

  • M68040 [they/them]
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    9 months ago

    In the weeks after I got myself banned from twitter on purpose to force myself to quit getting into stupid internet arguments, I found myself arguing with people in YouTube comments instead. Out of the frying pan, into the Vietnam-era cancer burn pit

      • M68040 [they/them]
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        9 months ago

        Honestly came within a inch of losing my ability to communicate with people without verbally abusing them in some form

    • Egon [they/them]
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      9 months ago

      Lmao that's a whole different level of internet arguments. YouTube arguments span years

  • Dalek
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    9 months ago

    I now see that the big sites - reddit, "X" and YT are majorly astroturfing. I've seen a couple of good youtubers who had history degrees under their belt give up on the site as it doesnt like the holocaust stuff. Real history and science is being buried. The stuff that appeals to the algorithm tends to be the conspiracy junk, the fake news and the "free energy" claptrap. They are just breeding grounds for this shit

  • hypercube [she/her]
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    9 months ago

    yeah it's fucked - my trained profile is nice, has helped me find a bunch of interesting music recommendations. Then I open it not logged in and see the faces of Piers Morgan and Mr Beast spread across my screen like the wailing souls imprisoned in Hell

  • Adkml [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    Feel like there's a distinction between YouTube and the comments.

    "Looking like a YouTube comment section" has been a way nondescript cesspits of comment sections since like 2004, the actual videos you can get everything from chuds whining that Disney movies don't uphold Roman archetypes but you can also get people in thigh high stocks role-playing in disco elysium.

    In summation YouTube is a land of contrasts.

  • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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    9 months ago

    I just can't believe there's actual human beings that waste time using YouTube as a forum of discourse, at some point it just has to be the project of some bored chuds creating racist ass chatbots endlessly spamming every video with some type of shit take.

    The algorithm is shit though and will, without a second, recommend the most heinous shit especially if you show any interest in politics (YouTube be like "oh you watch leftist videos like Second Thought? How bout some Jordan Peterson!!!").

    • CrimsonSage [any]
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      9 months ago

      God forbid you watch anything even 2 degrees away from ww2 and it will have you watching vintage unionic nazi propaganda in like 3 seconds. Every time I get back into hoi4 I have to deal with that mess for months.

  • RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her]
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    9 months ago

    I think a lot of people here are blind to it because they spend so much time on it, but Twitter is fucking awful.

    I've never used it, but sometimes I click on links that are posted here, and my god it just seems fucking miserable.