Stupid motherfuckers knew this would happen for decades and now they have 60 days to fix it lol. What a useless fucking country.
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The states fail to come up with a plan
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The federal government declares that they're cutting the water off
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The states ignore the decree
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The federal government fails to enforce its decree
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Further decline of the US's ability to enforce law
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Massive droughts and power outages because this was actually important
I can see this happening. A few years ago a bunch of Utahns drained a reservoir on purpose in protest against being told to cut back. This attitude is pervasive in the West
https://www.abc4.com/news/local-news/did-residents-drain-a-reservoir-out-of-revenge/amp/
If liberals had any consistent standards, the ensuing water shortages would be blamed on the sitting president and taken as proof that capitalism and the US are evil and need to be destroyed
To people who might still don't get it, this is what a "treat" is and shit like this is the reason why some of us seems so incensed by it.
honest-to-god fucking terrorists, every last one should be shot on live TV as a warning
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the Pheonix property market is already starting to crash hard over this and the fact that interest rates are unaffordably high because the federal reserve hates it when poor people get more money
Housing Market Warning as Prices Suddenly Fall in One U.S. City
https://www.newsweek.com/housing-market-real-estate-mortgage-phoenix-arizona-interest-1722144
Almost like using millions of gallons of water to farm thirsty crops like almonds, and to also keep shitty monoculture fescue grass green in a desert was...kind of a stupid idea?
Ed:
states will need to figure out a way to cut usage by 2 to 4 million acre-feet in 2023 — which amounts to Arizona’s entire annual intake, if not more.
King of the Hill was always right
This is going to be spicy. No one is going to want to give up their water.
These past few months have had me saying this every fucking week. :doomer:
It's a pretty messed up situation when even us "alarmists" were too rosy in our predictions. The last two years feel like world building in a sci-fi dystopia.
Like just beating you over the head with obvious moral lessons, nonstop.
For real if the last 2 1/2 years happened in one of the shitty low budget YA sci-fi shows I love id be like “Okay that’s a bit of a stretch”
the day my city is dried out for some fucking almond is the day I minecraft the west
Reminded me of this incident back in the 1930s, would be very funny if the Arizona declares martial law and mobilizes the National Guard again.
Sure, but I also just like to insult lawns when possible
Oh I’d love to hear more about this if you’ve posted anywhere about it
At least one feeds people. Grass in a desert is top tier stupid.
if we're going by sheer stupidity (aka per acre wasteage) rather than gross impact, then it's golf courses > lawns > almond farming
the grass on golf courses is just....something else
Yeah i agree. Also yeah fuck the nuts grown in central valley. But lots of those guys are not pulling from the Colorado river. They are drilling wells up to 2k feet deep+ to get too water. They are hiring oil well exploration companies to drill the wells. Pretty nuts 😀
also sucking the San Joaquin and Sacramento Rivers dry
The Corcovado Gulf in Chile could easily be dammed to create a large freshwater reservoir (it might already be brackish)--and the climate is perfect for almonds (not that it matters, just eat a bit less almonds won't kill you)
unfortunately Boric seems clowny
You need 16kg of plant protein to produce 1kg of murdered cow protein
How much of the water usage for agriculture is growing the turf that they sell in big rolls though? I tried to find some data on it but I couldn't find any data on how much acreage is used for what crops in Arizona.
It's the solution to living in a climate that grass isn't supposed to grow in. Tired of yellow, dead grass in the summer because you live in a fucking desert? Buy already grown grass by the roll every fucking summer!
We also grow an ungodly amount of alfalfa to feed the beef of other states as well as Saudi Arabia (legit just learned that this morning reading some collapse articles on California ag).
The sauds are buying up ag land in the desert here cuz they know how to farm a desert. And it's too hot to grow crops there now to feed their livestock
It's insane though how wasteful it is to cater to beef needs when we could switch to goats (or just go non cattle ag but I feel way too many chuds would shoot up whole foods in reaction to it).
It's for their sheep. I don't think they are feeding our beef ranches. Maybe some. But most of it is being shipped back to the me to keep their livestock alive
Again this is the true answer, but tell this to a chud that wants red meat every single day and suddenly you get someone shooting up a local farmers market cuss of brainworms.
Who could have seen this coming. Hope you haven't also built parking lots over all your aquifer recharge zones also
California and six other Western states have less than 60 days to pull off a seemingly impossible feat: Cut a multi-way deal to dramatically reduce their consumption of water from the dangerously low Colorado River.
Never even says which other states, fucking American "journalism"
Unironically, though. A lot of american adults are functionally illiterate and the ones that are literate only read at a 6th grade level
No excuse for not including a map graphic, if they were paying by the pixel they could've used one of the 7 ad slots
60% of Americans couldn't point to New Mexico or Arizona on a map.
...Also, 80% of statistics are made up.
Lol, exceptionally bad, according to Wikipedia two of the states are Mexican states (Sonora and Baja California). More than a non-trivial problem.
Lmao they really buried the lede on that one. Bluecheck brain, only coastal American states with major cities count
Baja California
Is this going to threaten America's strategic supply of Mountain Dew Baja Blast?
colorado arizona nevada utah california and new mexico... wyoming maybe? do they count baja?
It's gotta be Wyoming and New Mexico, or Baja California and Sonora.
somehow i dont think mexican states are consulted... even if wyoming barely is in the watershed
It's possible that the author of the article counted 7 states in the Wikipedia article and didn't realize 2 of them are Mexican, lol.
The Great Salt Lake doesn’t get any water from the Colorado River, but this year the lake is in danger of reaching a tipping point where its salinity becomes so high due to low water that it can no longer support life for brine shrimp. Brine shrimp are what migrating birds eat as they travel across Utah, so losing brine shrimp means millions of migratory birds will be affected. A dry Great Salt Lake also means tons of environmental harm to humans because the toxic dust hidden in the lake bed is becoming more and more exposed.
The drought in the US West is a thousand disasters happening at once. I’ve been keeping an eye on Utah news about it and it’s happening even faster than I anticipated tbh
lol according to the article california is under no obligation to cut it's water usage under current agreements
there's no way the farmers in california will let the state cut their water intake down by much
arizona and nevada might be fucked
Can the other states effected by this just... like stop the water, somehow?
That would be initially hilarious, before thousands died so the pistachios could grow
Waiting for the Biden tweet on that
"Congress must act to prevent drought related deaths and the filibuster should not stand in the way. But right now, we don’t have the votes to change the filibuster. That means we need to elect more Democratic senators and reelect our House majority in November to get this bill to my desk."
I didn't even have to change much
lol
lmao
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yeah, banning one kind of crop is just as hard as shutting down the entirety of animal agriculture 🙄
Shutting down animal ag would actually do something. Almonds aren't one of the main drivers of climate change
this is about a water situation, something libs might actually address. not climate change as a whole.
calibrate your scope or you might as well just say "abolish capitalism" every time and, yeah, we already know.
nah i'm sure that's somehow less effective than trying to get libs to destroy multiple entire sectors of agriculture
the colorado river hasnt reached the sea since the 1960s. everyones been living and developing out there in willful ignorance for 2+ generations
its like the world at large in microcosm :doomer:
I'm gonna lol at this now before horrors beyond human comprehension and the Humongous comes for my water
Fun fact: There's an event in Nevada called Wasteland Weekend that's kind of like Burning Man for people who really really like Mad Max. The Humungous shows up every year and makes everyone pancakes.
I'm sure he'll just find some way to make pancakes out of flour ground from human bones.
i really appreciate living in an area with cheaper housing and water. it's pretty cool! also, this is like watching 7 separate countries have a problem, because thats all the US is. 50 separate countries. Dead slaveowners forgot to write down healthcare and better gun restrictions, so the federal govt just can do nuffin.
When I was growing up in CA I figured nuclear-powered desalination plants would be the solution, as an adult I figure mass climate migration and Mad Max will be the response, for the US doesn't do solutions that involve infrastructure.
i really enjoy the idea of a desal plant that runs on uranium byproduct in the salty sludge they take out of tge water
as an adult now i think we're just going to have to eat the rich
That's how it always goes. Put it off until shit is breaking or broke and then wonder what happened
"well it's too late to do anything about it now, therefore I am justified in hoarding water and shooting anyone who licks their lips near my stash"
Excited for the liberals who insist we could have fixed this problem if we hadn't been distracted by gay rights
:doomer: Fuck it. I guess I'm staying in Arizona and turning in to fatty human jerky.
And that's appropriate because with the water wars comes the food wars and cannibalism.
We are going full Cormac McCarthy.
Still suits ain't gonna help with the fact that people are still gonna get killed. EDIT: Most will die from the Water Wars but some will die from cannibalism.
I mean you get a lot of water and food from a human carcass. :shrug-outta-hecks:
And didn't the Fremen kill outsiders who wandered into the desert because they figured the outsiders weren't going to survive for long anyway so why waste the water?
Fairly certain I’d rather be reclaimed by based space jihad than die of thirst anyways
the federal government will step in and cut the water allocations for them because if they keep sipping the water out, downstream electric dams will make no more electric
I guess hope the supreme court doesn't override the bureau of reclamations power
whoever's upstream should just tap all the water and sell it at premium to the others, invisible hands and all that
Nah they'll probably just shut off the water for the poor, the rich will pay to get it trucked in.
Big daddy gov does it for us. These states have had years to prepare for this, and since they haven't, hopefully they feel the consequences. Californians will be pissed they have to change useage at all, while the other states will simply be strangled over time
deadpool , and we ain't talking about the merc with a mouth
They'll decide that subsidized water to keep lawns green for people who voluntarily live in the desert is more important than greenish hydroelectric power and start burning a hell of a lot more fossil fuels, steadily exacerbating the original problem.
