The woo to chud pipeline is unfortunately real and is stunningly fast.
delta_p_crab.avi
Sometimes all it takes is someone becoming rich and being asked to pay some of it back. :porky-scared:
I'm gonna be honest and take a risk here by saying that I think Russell embodies a kind of media literacy and ability to swim through the sea of bullshit in the world that the AVERAGE person is engaged in that a lot of the left is lacking.
I don't think he's going the way of Jimmy Dore and others. I think he just knows how to speak in ways that reaches and engages these people despite the fact he is absolutely a revolutionary leftist. I don't have the same cynicism that he's going to move away from that.
Anyone that does any offline UK organising at all will have seen him around speaking at events openly calling for revolution and firing up the crowd. He's not right wing and he's not going to disappear from speaking and promoting at events in the UK left because of this.
I don’t think he’s going the way of Jimmy Dore and others. I think he just knows how to speak in ways that reaches and engages these people despite the fact he is absolutely a revolutionary leftist. I don’t have the same cynicism that he’s going to move away from that.
In a year or so, we'll know for sure.
Yeah, like Awoo he's actually been really helpful to a couple of climate and evictions campaigns I've been around (even if sometime tangentially). I'd certainly wait and see although a sus shift wouldn't entirely surprise me either because I'm a terrible cynic.
I can understand why a creator would want to ditch YouTube for a platform that views censorship as anathema and I don't think it necessarily indicates a right wing turn.
On YouTube you have to avoid saying certain words (regardless of context) to avoid triggering the algorithm.
Some of the only people who seem to agree with me on lefty politics are also anti-vaxxers. It is an odd one, but I do not blame them for mistrusting literally everything they have ever been told by an authority figure.
Its frustrating, because I've read some legit criticism of mRNA as a technology, of the manufacturing process, of the patent system, of the means of testing and distribution, of reporting on efficacy...
I definitely understand the skepticism. But vaccination, broadly speaking, is just so well-established as effective and useful. Its like watching people slip from "American car culture is a massive waste of resources" to "the internal combustion engine doesn't actually work".
I get you. But I would argue that they are so badly educated about vaccinations from the get-go, that they probably never appreciated the benefits of having them at all.
Yeah, Rumble is chud youtube. Rumble is the video host for Parler. Rumble hosts channels for Donald Trump, OAN, Newsmax, Alex Jones, Tulsi Gabbard, Glenn Greenwald, Andrew Tate, etc.
There are 2 other chud youtube sites, BitChute and Odyssee. Rumble is larger than the other 2 sites.
I've heard of BitChute but never Rumble. Sounds like Rumble has only the best company.
I know next to nothing about him
Serious question -
was he always secretly right-wing ordid something happen in his life to break his brain?Edit - I just assumed he was (now) right-wing. I'm too American for my own good.
If he wasn't famous he'd be one of those incredibly annoying Twitter accounts that calls themselves post-left anarcho-egoist and posts about how you can't let the state counter the pandemic or something stupidly idealist.
post-left anarcho-egoist
So - "No masters, no bosses! Except for me."...?
I never really watched a ton of his stuff, but he seemed (or maybe still seems?) to at best be a socdem that had their brain broken by COVID and policy surrounding it.
I knew Russel through mutual friends when he was still in his party phase. He wasn’t right-wing then, but the guy unfortunately has no theory and was all contrarianism / counter culture. He didn’t stand a chance once he met people like Dore.
I’m glad Russel is sober, but holy shit success in hollywood only made all his character flaws worse.
Edit: Brand is still not right wing I guess? No idea, to be honest.
He's not right wing now.
He IS contrarian and counter-culture, but I've not seen any of that on the cultural issues, the guy is a leftist that swims through the brainwormed reactionary common folk like a fish in the sea.
That’s good then, haven’t seen him since he made it big in LA. Hope he somehow keeps that up.
success in hollywood only made all his character flaws worse.
There's a quote by somebody that goes "Hollywood is a trip down a sewer in a glass-bottom boat."
Yeah. Fame takes whatever you are and amplifies it. If you don’t go in with a good support system… you’re going to get messy.
If he isn't yet, he will be if he wants to make money on his new platform.
Yeah, this. The money has always been in content that frightens and worries and presents imminent danger to a consumer. "If it bleeds, it ledes"
He didn’t used to be. He’s in Jimmy Dore’s orbit now though and that guy is crypto-fash
Is the :wtyp: podcast in pewdiepie's orbit because they're both on youtube dot com?
The youtube audience is everyone, the audience of rumble is chuds who think youtube chuds aren't racist enough
I wouldn't characterize this position as remotely close to anything an anti-vaxer thinks
Anti-vaxers will hit a lot of these points; they'll just surround it in five layers of nutjob stuff. Just like other reactionaries will have a legitimate grievance here and there (e.g., the cost of living is too damn high) but will misdiagnose the causes/belive a bunch of crank shit, too.
In theory, if you find a few of those actually real points to agree on, you can start down the path of bringing someone around.
I don't know... calling your points above "anti-vax" is like calling having issues with the US gov spending taxpayer dollars on SpaceX to be "flat earther".
Like yeah a flat earther could conceivably be angry about their tax dollars going to Elon Musk's rockets and yeah an anti-vaxxer could conceivably hold all those viewpoints you brought up, but they hold them for wildly different reasons than anyone here would, and anti-vax refers to a pretty specific movement with pretty specific viewpoints behind them.
Yeah none of this remotely justifies being anti-vax. It's just excuses to refuse to do basic things to protect yourself and others. It's like listing all the ways that cars cause pollution then refusing to wear a seatbelt.
Whenever I see this guy, literally the only thing I can think about is the "I know it smell crazy in there" tweet
you gotta wash yourself man
Can't believe this mediocre actor with a penchant for fucking big-titty singers is moving from Far-Right YouTube to Far-Right Rumble. I am so upset right now.
I feel vindicated because I never liked him or found him insightful.
It's a bummer, he didn't have a coherent ideology but I always felt like his heart was in the right place. This is what happens when you don't read theory smh
