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  • MemesAreTheory [he/him, any]
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    2 years ago

    Watching liberals heads spin when I tell them China has a higher life expectancy and literacy rate than the United States is a good time.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      You just get some kind of denialist response. "Oh, you can't trust anything China puts out." / "Its all just indoctrination, they're not allowed to read anything the government doesn't like" / "Actually this doesn't include all the people the Communist Party imprisons and starves." / "When I was in China, everyone was miserable and sad and poor and locked in their basements by the evil COVID police."

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    China has been heavily propagandized against since the earliest days. Saying anything good about the country is taboo in political discourse. The Soviets went through it as well.

  • Cherufe [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Not related to fetterman but unironically the I have found that the irl conversations where mosts people get on board with leftists ideas are those where someone frames them in an anti China way

    “The workers need to take control of the means of production before China takes them from us”

    I dont say I suport it but I have seen it too many times to be a coincidence

      • Thomas_Dankara [any,comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        yeah, exactly. no "compromises" can be made on this shit. There should be no throwing other nationalities, ethnicities, etc. under the bus to "fool" people into socialism. That's not how it works.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      In fairness, that was explicitly the Yellow scare.

      Weird that the Red scare didn't involve so much paranoia about Communists fucking white women though. I wonder why :us-foreign-policy:

    • Teekeeus
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      1 month ago

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    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      For a long time I've thought that the organ harvesting allegations are basically the Blood Libel. Then Trump comes along, calls COVID the "China Virus" and blames global warming on China and I think "ahh, so we're spreading the plague and poisoning the wells too."

      • NPa [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The Japanese-American internment camps are going to be reopened with 'Japanese' hastily crossed out and replaced with 'Chinese'. :yea:

        • huf [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          yeah, just the old ones reopened without any renovations.

          remember when america used to BUILD things? like internment camps...

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      2 years ago

      As a Jew with a number of ex-pat friends, we would regularly joke at the number of overlapping stereotypes.

  • ShmoneyShmillions [none/use name]
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    2 years ago

    At this point there’s two Chinas: the real one and the Atlantean levels of boogeyman China that the West talks about

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Two Jews meet on the U-Bahn in the 1930s. One is reading a copy of Der Strumer, a Nazi propaganda paper.

      His friend turns to him in shock and says "Herschel! How could you read that garbage?!"

      Herschel lowers the paper an inch and says "When I look around life is grim and miserable for our people. But in here? Oy! We run the banks! We make all the movies! We're on the verge of overthrowing the government! What's not to like?"

  • plov_mix [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Ah I see, the asiatics stealing jobs from "real" workers cliché. Let me check my racism bingo card

    • RoabeArt [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Its the late 80s/early 90s Japan scare all over again. You can find so many movies from that era set in the future that have a quaint American business that's being bought out or run by some shady Japanese cabal.

      People were actually convinced that Japan was taking over the US. I guess with the Soviet Union dissolved, Americans needed some new bogeyman to be afraid of.

  • 420blazeit69 [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    The closest to anti-imperialism a significant U.S. politician can get is isolationist + "sanctions just hurt people, actually." Maybe with a dash of "end the Cuban embargo" as a treat.

  • edge [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    He'd still be the second best person in the Senate :agony-shivering:

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Among my fellow Americans, I feel like I would get more grief by saying I'm pro-China than I would saying I'm a Marxist.

    Though tbf most Americans don't have the slightest clue what Marxism is.