"Failure to cut carbon emissions means ‘rapid transformation of societies’ is only option to limit impacts"

The UN implies that the only way we'll be able to stop global warming, is if we implement socialism immediatly.

The 1.5°C degree limit is important because once we cross it, a domino-effect of self-reinforcing mechanisms is activated, see:

  • https://www.science.org/doi/abs/10.1126/science.abn7950
  • https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1810141115
    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      This is like some chilling minimalist, modern art piece called "We're all fucked"

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I think the real reason Biden's IRA bill passed is so that the dem pol could deflect any climate change questions for a long time. About a decade? They could lie and say because they did something - it's all taken care of and not to worry.

        Also what happens if (when?) the GOP justices say "We are ruling that ~90% of the IRA is unconstitutional. Fuck you."

        • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          Biden’s IRA bill

          For a moment I was like :ira:

          But yeah, you're probably right.

          • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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            2 years ago

            I'm still surprised they didn't name it something else. Like what was wrong calling it the IR bill? Or using a synonym for Act?

    • moujikman [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      It'll be 8 years before that brand new 15mpg truck gets off of the road. That brand new car dependent suburban neighborhood on the edge of town isn't going to be abandoned any time soon. The US government hasn't even threatened to do anything about climate change or there would be a change in consumer behavior.

      • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Don't worry. AmazonClimateSolutions or MuskClimateRepair or GatesClimateWindows will almost certainly* fix the problem for the small fee of only a few trillion dollars. They'll put some probably not toxic stuff into the atmosphere to block the sun's rays or do whatever. I'm sure everything be fine.

        * Results not guaranteed.

  • neo [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Despite Andersen’s doubts that the necessary emission cuts can be made by 2030, she pointed to the plummeting costs of renewables, the rollout of electric transport, major climate legislation in the US, and moves by pension funds to back low-carbon investments.

    Only one of those things, the reduction in the costs of renewables, is tangible. The rest is fake.

      • TheModerateTankie [any]
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        2 years ago

        :good-morning: It's called the "green dream or whatever" and if you :vote: and give the democrats a super-duper majority they will pass it immediately upon aproval from the parliament-funkadelictarian.

        • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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          2 years ago

          Hello yes I am the parliamenterino and I am here to judge quite strictly and arbitrarily the line between a super majority and a super duper majority

          You cannot get rid of me and according to freedom and democracy my word is law

    • panopticon [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      Build viable alternatives and agitate/educate among the people around you, as much as you can, imo

        • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          There literally aren't enough resources to stop the climate migration

          The west currently struggles with a couple million Guatemalans and Syrians
          Now imagine hundreds of millions of Mexicans, Venezuelans, Algerians, SPANIARDS, ITALIANS, etc migrating north because there's no water left

          millions will be shot at the border, but more still will make it in

        • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          You can see examples of what's likely to happen by looking at other countries going through what's expected to happen to the US. The Dominican Republic has been getting pummeled by climate change and their attitude towards Haitians has been pretty awful overall. The amount of Haitians trying to get in is comparable to the amount of refugees expected to get into the US when you take the Dominican Republic's size into account.

          Guatemala also has a lot of refugees trying to get to the US and this leads to violent border patrol and gangs picking off refugees for trafficking. I don't think all of South America will become uninhabitable by 2050, but most of it will be. The ones hanging on will still be plagued with significant issues that will only get worse as time goes on.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Oh, climate fascism was already locked-in before this (IIRC the US military plan for the refugees was to build a wall and kill them since at least 2009). My (far more doomer) hope for China is that they're able to keep some sort of industrialized society intact and functioning, but even then I have doubts.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        I think China will keep their society mostly intact, but the country itself is going to lose a lot of land and people. It will be greatly reduced in size and population as will most countries that manage to hold out.

    • American_Communist22 [she/her,comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      my mom said it was okay for the future, because the most populated areas would die from climate change, and then it will go back to normal.

      :agony-deep:

      bitch if this goes far I'm killing you, dumbass mofo.

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      They'll use starvation and cholera. Bomb ports and bridges so food can't move, poison water supplies. It's the quickest way to kill vast, vast groups of people.

    • Teekeeus [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      The west can only sustain itself on the theft from and exploitation of the global south

      The west won't survive but white people are too chauvinistic to see that they're useless parasites who will be without a host

      • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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        2 years ago

        The :brainworms: to not realize

        a. It's still gonna fuck the future population horribly and

        b. It's not going to just fucking stop at "3 c"

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          3C also probably means we all die in nuclear hellfire anyway because geopolitics in that kind of world is going to get 1000x more tense.

  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
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    2 years ago

    It's been good posting with you all, and im very happy that I have you all in my life. Not trying to be a doomer here, quite the opposite tbh, this is a sincere sentiment. I just don't know what to say to this news beyond that.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    I would just like to state, for the record, that I called this years ago.

    • aqwxcvbnji [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I get it, we all "knew" it already on some level, but it's the first time that a major study simply says it out loud that there's no hope left. Previously, they all had the obligatory hopefull scenario at the end which was theoretically possible, but now there's not even that anymore. So I think that's significant.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Every IPCC report in the last twenty years has underestimated both the degree to which the planet has warmed, and the degree at which that warming is accelerating. People who thought there was hope were delusional.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        The IPCC reports since at least 2016 (when I started reading them) only had one "good path", and that always involved sudden and immediate decarbonization along with total international cooperation, neither of which were ever going to happen.

        But yeah, it's grim.

  • Kuori [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    the only moral response to this news is immediate ecoterrorism tbh

    yeah yeah :fedposting: whatever every oil and gas ceo should die

  • jabrd [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    Hey don’t worry, we’ll probably get a new world war but with nukes this time first. Hopefully the nuclear winter counteracts the global warming. That’s how it works right? Right guys?

  • dat_math [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    Trajectories of the Earth System in the Anthropocene is maybe one of my favorite applied math papers of all time.