Let the door hit you on the way out, bozo

  • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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    2 years ago

    clearing the way for a younger generation of up-and-coming lawmakers to climb into the leadership ranks.

    so the new leader will be 75 years old

      • HarryLime [any]
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        2 years ago

        It's apparently going to be Hakeem Jeffries.

          • HarryLime [any]
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            2 years ago

            He HATES the left and the DSA with a passion. He and AOC despise each other.

            • VernetheJules [they/them]
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              2 years ago

              Who could've guessed they would take the opportunity to ratchet further to the right

            • Tormato [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              Think the local DSA had plans to (or did) primary his stupid, sellout ass.

              Righteous.

              He’s a Neoliberal POS.

              • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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                2 years ago

                We can at least hope that the Dems dropping the idea of “coalition building” with leftists is enough to discredit the DSA’s dominant radlib faction and push the organization left.

                • TerminalEncounter [she/her]
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                  2 years ago

                  It will not, they did not generally arrive at that position because of rigorous materialist analysis but like the vibe of leftism wrt the oppressed and worker power but are either too comfortable or too scared for actual change - i.e. socialist revolution. I hoped that getting spurned over and over but especially 2016 to 2020 would get the radlibs to figure it out but alas apparently not.

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I don't think that is automatically better. Being younger does not make someone's opinions better. And they're politicians they're not going to be in touch with people

          • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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            2 years ago

            oh im not even saying they won't be pieces of shit as far as ideology. im just sick of old pieces of shit making decisions that wont have repercussions until they are buried.

    • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      Jeffries will be the new leader. Similar ideology as Pelosi, but much more openly hateful of the left. He might work with the GOP and pass some right-wing stuff purely to "own" the left.

      • dead [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Hakeem Jeffries is opposed to class analysis and he watches Game of Thrones. He's an anti-socialism liberal.

        “There’s a difference between progressive Democrats and hard-left democratic socialists,” Hakeem Jeffries told me. “It’s not a distinction that I’m drawing. They draw that distinction. And so clearly, I’m a Black progressive Democrat concerned with addressing racial and social and economic injustice with the fierce urgency of now. That’s been my career, that’s been my journey, and it will continue to be as I move forward for however long I have an opportunity to serve. There will never be a moment where I bend the knee to hard-left democratic socialism.

        Jeffries likes that phrase, bend the knee. He took it from Game of Thrones. “Black progressives do tend to tackle issues first and foremost with an understanding that systemic racism has been in the soil of America for over 400 years,” he said. “Hard-left progressives tend to view the defining problem in America as one that is anchored in class. That is not my experience as a Black man in this country. And perhaps that’s where we have a difference of perspective.”

        https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/08/hakeem-jeffries-nancy-pelosi-speaker-house/619695/

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        more openly hateful to the left? Jesus christ. I hate this fucking show and I want to change the channel.

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Amazing to me that, instead of slightly bending with the wind and nudging just a bit towards progressive/left-wing signaling to appeal to the base as is typically the case, the DNC is doing the exact opposite and will likely double down when called out about it.

        I suppose their bloated egos from the midterms might be a factor.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Once the exit polls for this election came out a lot of left of center X'ers were shocked to find out that more than 50% of their cohort are Reaganite scum. Like no shit, guys. Don't you remember that everyone bullied and beat the shit out of you in highschool and everything you liked was called "alternative" and "counter culture"?

        • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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          2 years ago

          I've heard millenials described as the most progressive generational cohort in a century, but I'm skeptical. It'll be interesting to see if that descriptor still pans out when we finally inheret leadership of US institutions in 50 years or so. What's left of them anyway.

          • spectre [he/him]
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            2 years ago

            Party of the question is whether they inherit enough of the boomer wealth to shift them rightward. I'm thinking yes, but as global tensions increase the American empire is going to have more and more trouble generating the wealth needed to sustain the rightward pressure it's enjoyed throughout it's entire existence.

            I think it'll be Zoomers and mostly Alphas who will really be picking up the pieces and actually having to contend with a less inflated living standard on a widespread basis.

            • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              There could be a "progressive" era that mirrors Teddy Roosevelt in regards to monopolies, but I don't see that happening for another twenty to thirty years.

              • spectre [he/him]
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                2 years ago

                Hopefully they nationalize them instead of break them up

            • Bluegrass_Buddhist [none/use name]
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              2 years ago

              I'd assume it's shorthand for wanting to raise taxes on corporations and the wealthy, to re-invigorate the public sector and welfare policies like universal healthcare, for being opposed to foreign interventions, etc.

              • kristina [she/her]
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                2 years ago

                they say that but then they do the opposite

                its a term that has become entirely meaningless. maybe a slight tinge towards 'racism is bad'

          • D3FNC [any]
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            2 years ago

            most progressive generational cohort in a century

            Biden fought for segregation. It's a low fucking bar.

  • Lerios [hy/hym]
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    2 years ago

    seems like what we're learning here is that hitting politician's husbands with hammers is a viable way to bring about change :thinkin-lenin:

  • CantaloupeAss [comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    Wish I wasn't looking at he/him pronouns using a sexist insult against her but otherwise completely agree

    • AsleepInspector
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      I reserve it towards political ruiners of any semblance of progress, but I'll strive to be better. Thank you, comrade.

    • RION [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      Was it the other b word before editing?

      • AsleepInspector
        hexagon
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        2 years ago

        Yeah, 5 letter B derogatory; someone posted I should edit it, since I do regret it, so I did.

  • D3FNC [any]
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    2 years ago

    democrat spin never dies; instead of 'nancy pelosi completely blew what should have been the biggest democratic midterm sweep in the history of this country and will lose her title of speaker of the house next year,' it's 'Pelosi steps down,'

    No. She lost it. She lost the house leadership and obviously it will go into effect next year when the new congress gets sworn in.

    edit: I just remembered her dad was the mobbed up mayor of Baltimore, and I think her rapist brother had mob ties too. Is Pelosi the last visible holdover from the era when intelligence agencies and organized crime merged?

    • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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      2 years ago

      What should've made this a sweep?

      I agree there are huge issues with how the Democrats campaigned, but the big issues I am thinking of is the DCCC only sending money to safe seats who it turns out didn't really need it. While a lot of other potentially winnable races got 0. But that lies at Sean Maloney and he is gone

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Sweep relative to the usual drop after a party wins the presidency and especially when they control both houses too.

        But the issue is it turns out Dems could have held the house except California and ESPECIALLY New York fucked up royally. New York is 15 dems and 11 republicans lmao, in a blue as fuck state. They should not have been allowed to become as demobilized and sclerotic as they are.

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I agree New York was an especially fucked up situation. The podcast Deconstructed interviewed AOC about it last week.

          I was just saying that the issue does not seem with Pelosi specifically. The House passed a lot of legislation.

          It is kind of funny that Hakeem Jefferies is from New York though. That state fucked up and they are leading the Dems in both chambers of Congress!

      • D3FNC [any]
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        2 years ago

        They could have rallied around literally anything they pretend to stand for, health care, prison reform, a welfare state, decriminalization, legal immigration, education, abortion rights; but these motherfuckers are literally too lazy to remember they aren't supposed to openly share all of the same values as the Republicans.

        • CanYouFeelItMrKrabs [any, he/him]
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          2 years ago

          While I totally agree, that only works if the whole party buys in and it actually becomes law. The House did pass marijuana decriminalization but no midterm voters has a bill that died in the Senate in their mind

    • AbbysMuscles [she/her]
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      2 years ago

      But when these people hang around for half a century and do so much damage I can’t find the enthusiasm to celebrate them leaving.

      Like when that one Koch mutant died, or when indeed even Kissinger dies. The world will be better with these people out of it, but them dying of old age and surrounded by wealth and success and power is no victory.

  • UlyssesT
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    21 days ago

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  • Utter_Karate [he/him, comrade/them]
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    2 years ago

    It needs to be hammered home that she did a pretty bad job. Still, she hammered down some rules during her tenure and made her political opponnents take a real hammering.

    • AsleepInspector
      hexagon
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      2 years ago

      Judging by the walking corpse Diane Feinstein still demanding her seat until the wind picks up and turns her to ash?

      Nah, Nancy's staying for a while.

      Edit: "Yet the departure is only partial: Pelosi will cede her formal leadership seat, but remain in Congress indefinitely, where she’s aiming to assume a mentorship role and grease the transition for whichever new leader fills the mantle."

      • Ericthescruffy [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        Edit: “Yet the departure is only partial: Pelosi will cede her formal leadership seat, but remain in Congress indefinitely, where she’s aiming to assume a mentorship role and grease the transition for whichever new leader fills the mantle.”

        Call me cynical but this whole thing is sounding like less of a big deal when you bother to read the details. She's "stepping down" but for all intents and purposes it sounds like she will continue to operate as the defacto leader of the house democrats. This only seems like big news if you were under the illusion that Pelosi isn't fucking immortal.

    • edge [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      She literally just got re-elected, so I doubt it.

  • shiteyes2 [any]
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    2 years ago

    The only karmic compensation of this is the relief of her going away, it isn't enough

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    2 years ago

    That's 2 wins for adventurism in the last 6 months. :bonk: :the-doohickey:

    • Grimble [he/him,they/them]
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      2 years ago

      If there's any police evidence photos of that hammer, i've got a banger emote idea

      :pelosi-pulverizer: Alternatively, :the-doohickey-mk2: