We got nothing from the Dems, so the only thing that remains for us to do is what we always said we will do no matter what - vote for Harris.
"It's not a vote for Kamala; it's a vote against Trump!"
Okay, if you're against both, then vote against both then?
I genuinely do not understand this lib talking point of "a vote is not an endorsement." It literally is! What, it doesn't count as supporting them if you feel bad when you do it?? Politicians could not give less of a shit.
These geniuses just completely destroyed any capacity they might have to make credible threats in the future, and proved that anyone treating them as unserious was correct.
Politicians could not give less of a shit.
This is the part that I didnt get about this for a long time. I mean I knew it, but i didnt make the connection in my brain.
All I understood is that in my mind I wasnt voting for all the evil things they do, I was voting for the marginal differences. That was the point of my vote in my mind.
It didnt occur to me until like late last year (yes, that late) that this doesnt materially matter because thats not how the politican takes it. They take it as an endorsement of every action they take.
For this reason, I'm sympathetic to people still stuck in that rut.
I never had it with voting but admittedly the same kind of logic held me back from going vegan for a long time, like, "I feel bad about eating meat so that makes it less bad when I do it, somehow."
A vote is not an endorsement.
Yeah i don’t like Ted Bundy, but i would lend a kitchen knife to him for his meal with his date
(cw: prescriptivism) language learner stuff
although not all native English speakers are consistent on this of course, and I understood what you meant, in this situation you may want to use "lend" for 借. a mnemonic that might help is "borrow from, lend to"— a sort of checksum for this mnemonic is that the words are in alphabetical order. (not trying to be annoying, hoping you will also correct my Mandarin)
The silliest thing is that elected officials literally use their vote numbers as endorsements! Right up until he dropped out Brandon was using the 2020 popular vote to say that people backed his policies.
No politician worth their salt would ignore such an easy way to claim legitimacy, and especially not because you said pretty-please don't take this as an endorsement of your genocidal actions
It's literally just like, "It's fine if my beliefs never manifest into any difference in material action, just so long as I know I'm holding the correct ideas in my head." Peak idealism.
Not me standing at the driveway to my polling center with a signature PSL sign (our signs really are the best; call us Professional Signs League the way we be pissing off interns that have to censor our signs before putting them on their articles and videos and ads).
Trump, saying he'd "accelerate the killing in Gaza"
bull-fucking-shit. none of these genocide-excusing scumbags can ever explain how he would do this, other than making it harder for liberals to pretend it's justified. the same arms and funding will still be sent, and if "Israel" could kill 2x more they would already be doing it. this is a pathetic excuse by people willing to throw others into the meatgrinder if it means they can stay comfortable on the couch.
How many Americans still believe in that bullshit death toll figure thats been stuck for nearly a year but mandem still on this narrative.
Even when we got to 30k originally it felt like an undercount. There's been massacre after massacre since then and it feels like there's just no one left to keep accurate records. They blew up most of the hospitals.
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"They say the uncommitted movement did all those extra steps in their Kamala endorsement!" So they are encouraging us to not vote for a president at all? I'm okay with that.
No cause you’ve got to vote against Trump (but not via Kamala or via any non-Kamala/Trump option) by giving your vote to uh
Hm
Hey can someone check if we’re supposed to vote for Kamala via the write-in box real quick
"We're against the genocide candidate but if you vote for an anti-genocide candidate then you're actually supporting the genocide" -smartest American liberal
NOOOO this is a once in a lifetime very important election twice in a row please bro just voot please we'll hold them accountable please bro trust me
Dems know that their base would still fall in line even if they pissed in their hair and shat in their mouth and made them lick their boots clean, they know that if a genocide isn’t enough to dissuade them, nothing is.
They could have one half executed for fun and the other half would still vote for them.
"Trump would have executed all of us so the Dems are still better!"
absolute clown shit. the "uncommitted movement" has been a joke since its inception, they've never been serious and it's just been a ploy to capture the hesitant dem voters and prevent them from going 3rd party. if they aren't going to apply any of their political leverage to get concessions, what even is the point?
I don't think it's a ploy, there's real Palestinians in it and stuff. I think this is just what happens when we have no real socialist organization or education, and radical alternatives are demonized. Everyone here knows they want something real bad, and they may even organize for it, but they have no idea how to get it beyond that. They've been blinded to the possibilities by propaganda.
I don't doubt that there are people involved that are sincere in their motives, but the movement itself has never had a clear direction or discipline even from the beginning. "So u hhh, we want you to stop arming and sending money to Israel and stuff, ok? Like uh, we'll still Vote Blue No Matter Who and stuff because Trump Bad, but pretty please still do what we want ok?" Zero leverage.
I am once again doing Lawrence O'Donnel posting
If you want to pull the major party that is closest to what you’re thinking, you must-YOU MUST-show them that you’re capable of NOT voting for them. If you don’t show them you’re capable of not voting for them, they don’t have to listen to you. I promise you that. I worked within the Democratic Party. I didn’t listen or have to listen to anything on the left while I was working within the Democratic Party, because the left had nowhere to go.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqRNnIMDkUY
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
tfw you have to balance your career in dem circles and credibility among decent people. Surprised they didn't fold completely (also its slightly misleading title, more like non-endorsed endorsed) intercept article
Uncommitted said that while the group would not endorse Harris, it continues to oppose a Donald Trump presidency and is not recommending a third-party vote in the presidential election for fear that it could inadvertently boost Trump’s advantage in the Electoral College. The group urged uncommitted voters to cast anti-Trump votes up and down the ballot.
“For months, we have urged Vice President Harris to shift her Gaza policy so we could mobilize voters in key states to save lives and our democracy,” the group said in the Thursday morning statement. “The DNC and the Vice President’s campaign fumbled even a small gesture to unite our party ahead of November by rejecting the simple request for a American speaker.”
Damn that's really the best libs can come up with? Truly pitiful
edit: I don't know what I was thinking, they're democrats after all
voting PSL machine go brrrrrrrrrrrrrr
