That transphobe that was posting ended his reign by assuring everyone how much of a big man he was over and over again.
Why is it so easy?
I assume the toxic communities they are part of just hammer in the idea of how much they suck, but I don't get why the keep going back and doubling down if it makes them feel so shitty about themselves.
It's a weird relationship these guys have with themselves and their "ideology". Is there any way to get through to that kind of dissonance?
Also respect and love to trans comrades. Sorry people fucking suck.
Because their ideology doesnt address the existential nothingness they experience. As such rehashing that which hurts them most, a lack of being loved/seen, is the way they know how to try and hurt someone but alas we are supported here and ones humanity is intrinsically supported in a communist ideology resulting in both ineffectual brigading and insecurity.
Yet another instance of their inferiority, that and, :le-pol-face:
Also as proven by zizek in his debate against Peterson communism yields a happier existence, and as proven by many studies communists are more sexually satisfied so jealousy is a factor. All that can be done is to bully them into introspection in hope they will seethe error of their paradigm.
I'm gonna need a source on that communists getting more sexual satisfaction. I got more lefty right around when I got into my first relationship.
That and I think they read being considerate of others as being overly fragile snowflakes. So they think you just have to hurl insults and it will break us, when the reality is being considerate means you're stronger as a group and know that you don't have to take some random asshole seriously because everyone else has your back. So instead of having any negative effect what actually happens is that within an hour of them being banned it's already been turned into pasta.
A strong community line against transphobia is the best possible defence for trans people. It's the reason why on chacha I just laugh and keep scrolling but in communities that are willing to entertain transphobia I mentally engage and end up ruining my whole day
That is a very well-worded explanation of this phenomenon. Thank you comrade.
:chavez-salute: Theory and dialectics will do more for a person than a lifetime of existance in the invisible hand of the market.
Everything will be commodified, even human life. https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/commodity.htm
that's why you always attack their masculinity, especially as a queer person. lean into their attacks on your masculinity (or femininity, I guess - that was a new one) and just attack the shit they really care about and can't really fight back on - like being able to get their dicks up in order to post hog.
edit: if you're cishet, pretend to be gay. they have no answer to "we think your insults are good things. actually".
Oh yeah i get it. It's just always surprising how well it works. Like 100% of the time they start losing their minds as soon as their masculinity comes into play.
There's just not many psychological assurances out there in my experience. But if you're talking to a CHUD you can almost guarantee that they will fucking explode at the idea that you aren't intimidated by their physical prowess.
they will fucking explode at the idea that you aren’t intimidated by their physical prowess.
The type of chud brigading places online is never physically intimidating anyway lol.
fash even more so. like as you move right on the spectrum, the less you can tolerate attacks to the constructed identities you hold core to yourself.
Getting white supremacists to talk about which ethnicities are considered white causes struggle sessions that make the left look like we are always holding hands and singing kumbaya. I honestly wonder how many chuds have killed each other over that discussion lol
I like to imagine white supremacists actually getting their own society and then slowly killing each other over arbitrary genetic differences, each more arbitrary than the last, until there's just one left who looks in the mirror in disgust at a slight crook in his own nose.
If the history of the UK (or a significant chunk of continental Europe, for that matter) is any indication, this is almost certainly the inevitable outcome of a fascist "white" ethnostate with no POC. The WASPs or whichever ethnic subgroup ends up on top of the hierarchy will dredge up ancient excuses for treating the "impure" other subgroups like subhumans.
I'm reminded of the Benjamin Franklin quote where he calls Swedes and Germans "swarthy" and says America should be producing more Anglos as they are the whitest and best race
I loved the Community bit of Pierce's dad being so racist he was racist against various white ethnicities
"Swedish dogs! Your blood is tainted by generations of racemixing with Laplanders- you're basically Finns!"
As a Finn, lol
But then even within Anglos there are the lesser notherners and the superior southerners. There is no end to the divisions.
If the Nazis had been in power longer this is exactly what would have happened.
If you wanna get spicy ask them if Chechens are white. It really divides the blood quantum guys from the western culture guys
see, I can't start that one because I just don't get it. I'm not white and I don't even know where the fault lines are there.
Since whiteness is a construct, there are a million different definitions of it and white supremacists have all different kinds depending on what kind of chud they are. I've seen some claim that chechens are white but sicilians aren't, and vise versa, and also that neither are. Online especially there are racists from various countries and some of them literally think that the others aren't white lol. It's so fucking stupid lmao
new game - get a nazi to tell you their bloodlines so you can mock them challenge
I just meant the dividing line is weird with whiteness and is really malleable. Probably should have just said that though, was responding to a bunch of stuff at the time.
oh, sorry, I got that and was making a joke about not liking white people
It's legitimately fascinating to me. I can't even imagine trying to hold onto ideas that are so hurtful to my own psyche.
Edit: ideological ideas at least. Things you can change.
Obviously mental illness plays a factor in inescapable thoughts and ideas as well, but I don't think that's the case with a lot of these guys.
they don't realize it's hurting them. it's a lot like repression, actually...
It really is a twisted gender role. I'm angry and I lack empathy because that's what successful people do.
this is a whole ass tangent but I'm pretty sure the bodybuilding types that roid up are experiencing a form of gender dysphoria
Possibly but would be the type of dysphoria that leads them to try to perform their assigned gender 'more' whatever that looks like to them, rather than transitioning to a different gender
Seriously. If you're arguing with a chud and getting nowhere (not that there's anywhere to get) it's hilarious to try and reframe any political thing in terms of masculinity, ie not being a pussy. Like whenever they bring up Ilhan Omar purportedly marrying her brother so that they could all move to the US as refugees, I go "Oh, so you would just let Big Government split up your family?? What kind of man lets his family get split up because of whatBig Government says?" etc
if you’re cishet, pretend to be gay. they have no answer to “we think your insults are good things. actually”.
i do this when people start getting toxic while playing video games and you can see their brains break in real time lmao
I don't play online games but I would totally do this if I did. also I can do a lot of voices so I'd REALLY try to fuck with their heads.
Since moving over here from reddit I legitimately have been having a better outlook on things and have started to actually seek help with some mental problems.
So thanks for that comrades.
Is there any way to get through to that kind of dissonance?
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You can bring a horse to water, but can't make the horse drink. Someone with TERF brainworms has to be willing to unlearn that shit if they come across sufficent contrary evidence.
Scapegoating is an easy way to feel better about one's own shitty life choices being the reason they are a failure.
Yup, I would've been a success if it wasn't for global capitalism.
their ideology is basically to solve problems with castration anxiety
I always thought the genesis was as a corruption of 'chad' rather than the movie
Conservative Humanoid Underground Dweller?
I always took it to mean a basement-dwelling loser, but maybe that's projection because I used to be a basement-dwelling loser. Now I've upgraded to a ranch house-dwelling loser.
As conservatives they're constantly staring into the gaping maw of being culturally obsolete, I'm sure I'll be pissy about it too someday when we transition from post-Mad Max communism to rad FALGSC Posadism. Maybe I'll bitch about space travel giving me a sinus headache.
That’s probably a part of it, along with the fact that they’ve identified social progress as being the fault of our decline when it’s far more complicated. Sexual liberation, the genesis of LGBTQ activism in the mainstream and the end of legal segregation coincides with the beginning of the decline of American dominance. They point to those things and say, “That caused it!” When in reality the capitalists weren’t okay with everyone having a slice of the pie, Europe and Japan were largely rebuilt and reindustrialized by the 70s and by the 1990s you have global capitalism in full swing rendering American labor a costly liability to high profit margins. Along with that you have the embarrassing realization that America lost a war in living memory and it’s because counterinsurgency pretty much just turns into genocide and concentration camps for it to be “successful” and even then it turns into a prolonged, bloody struggle that gets too costly in terms of resources and bodies turning the people back home against the war. But conservatives don’t have a materialist analysis of history or present conditions so they just latch onto things that make them uncomfortable or feel they’re “supposed” to hate. I have a pet theory that more people than we realize require special education, but mainstream education is one size fits all so they become anti-intellectual as a coping mechanism for their purported failures in education. Which, solution to that is simple: free community college with attentive professors and tutors and small class sizes in K-12 of no more than 20 children with one teacher and multiple floating support staff AND allowing certain students to work one on one strictly with a tutor. But hey, I’m just some asshole who doesn’t care about high taxes on the wealthy and laughing off fears of a “national debt” (like that means anything lol).
