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  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    When "suiting up" for a BD, especially with Judy, V will be given a headset that is meant to onset the instance. The headset fits over both eyes and features a rapid onslaught of white and red blinking LEDs, much like the actual device neurologists use in real life to trigger a seizure when they need to trigger one for diagnosis purposes. If not modeled off of the IRL design, it's a very spot-on coincidence, and because of that this is one aspect that I would personally advise you to avoid altogether. When you notice the headset come into play, look away completely or close your eyes. This is a pattern of lights designed to trigger an epileptic episode and it very much did that in my own personal playthrough.

    what in the name of christ..

    WHY DID THEY THINK THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA?!?

    "Oh hey, lets give our playerbase fucking seizures! That won't backfire spectacularly at all!"

      • Rem [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        With the amount of labor hours put into it you'd think they'd catch shit like that, but no, crunch is only for mass producing slop, not making content better.

        • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          i think its less a "can we make this content better" and more a "what is the intended purpose behind this content and what effect does it currently have" question that would catch something like this.

          someone only looking for "better content" would find "accurate portrayal of medical device used by neurologists" as being great superb wonderful because better is a very vague notion.

          someone that questions why that content exists and what effect it has would presumably not find it to be so great.

          but idk, youre not wrong. the quality control here is definitely fucked, to allow seizure inducing displays through like that

      • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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        i would guess the boilerplate epilepsy warning thing they put on all videogames covers them
        which is fucked to begin with, because those warnings are so broad that someone with the "can't look at flashy lights but am otherwise fine" type of epilepsy could think they're safe and then boom, strobe light 6 inches from their retina

    • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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      4 years ago

      I don't think it was intentional, but I think disability and accessibility issues are a major blind spot in most AAA studios. Not that that's a fine state of affairs, just that I don't think this kind of fuckup is unique to CDPR

    • mxnoodles [she/her]
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      Yeah holy fucking christ I’ve been seizure-free for going on 7 years now but this shit’s giving me EEG flashbacks. I’m glad I was never swept up on the hype train for this game.

  • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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    I've stopped telling people I game. I don't list it on dating apps. I never tell people I meet. It's embarrassing. The sad part is there are some really kind, earnest, quiet people that seek refuge in games and they get lumped in with these trogs.

      • ShoutyMcSocialism [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Eventually if you get to know me I'll mention it but it definitely isn't a conversation starter or something I bring up off the bat anymore. Don't get me wrong. I love these things. I've been addicted to them since I was ten. I just feel like there's such a toxic cloud over the entire thing. There's a literal cottage industry on YouTube centered around hating inclusiveness in gaming. It's bizarre.

    • Coca_Cola_but_Commie [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Not that I wouldn’t talk about it, but I kinda think it’s weird if gaming is a huge part of someone’s self identity. Unless you’re a professional streamer then gaming is just a leisure activity. I watch and talk about TV shows, but I don’t introduce myself to people as a TV watcher. I read a lot, but I don’t introduce myself as a reader. I play tabletop games but I don’t put role-player in my bio. Though that sounds like some kink thing.

      • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        For what it's worth Tinder now includes "board games" as an interest, so it's definitely not hugely uncommon.

        Now, I don't think folks are demanding more genocide options in Settlers of Catan, but I could be wrong.

  • Tittyskittles [none/use name]
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    I’m so fucking sick of gamer culture and how I know so much about the culture despite not having played a video game since Mario 3. It’s every where there’s a cyber punk game whatever, the play station is big and white ok fuck off. Go outside and do some drugs like a normal person

  • BASED_BALL [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    haha! yes! based! fuck people who were born with a disability that causes seizures, just fuck them!

    • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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      One of my neighbors in my old city explained that playing video games is how he found out he had a seizure disorder, and since that incident in the 90s hadn't played a video game.

      Normal humans who play video games might respond and say "damn, that sucks. If you ever decide to give them a try, here are resources so you can avoid games that might trigger that". G*mers say "haha fuck you and your rich and fulfilling family life, you're a loser who can't play video games".

      And yes, I did supply him with some info about resources for games that don't cause seizures. He said thanks, and then we went back to watching our kids play, and to my knowledge he didn't play video games again.

        • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Damn, that's incredibly lucky your sister was on the phone when that happened.

          And it sounds like you're doing the best you can to avoid these issues in your work. Keep at it!

    • chapoid [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      "As someone that does have seizures myself due to an injury from my time when I was active duty"

    • UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Gamers make their video games part of their identity. So if some reviewer "attacks" Cyberpunk, which basically has a cult following, it is an attack on it's cult of gamers, and then they're the enemy.

      • hauntingspectre [he/him]
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        And because g*mers are culturally illiterate, they can't engage beyond "cool katanas and sexy cyborgs" (and to be fair, reviews suggest the devs didn't engage with cyberpunk past that level either).

        Pretty sure "sending epileptic fit inducing videos to someone with epilepsy" is in fact what The Bad Guys would do in a cyberpunk world, but these dweebs, if they engage with that thought, view themselves as the rebels alongside their scrappy AAA title developing Witcherino bros fighting the Man (who in this case is someone providing aid for people who might suffer from playing this game).

      • NPa [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        LISTEN HERE SJW CU CK I HAVE PRESTIGED 125 TIMES IN CALL OF DUTY I WOULD DEFINETLY KIKC UR ASS ONCE CIVILIZATION COLLAPSES hold on my tendies are ready

    • Koa_lala [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Author is a woman > gamers often can't get a girlfriend > so they're mad at women > video games are very dear to them because it's the only thing they have > women says anything about video game > mental explosion

  • KarlBarx [they/them,he/him]
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    I feel that this is due to the reason that Gamers still view games as toys not as art. Like obviously under capitalism all art is commodified but games as an art are not only expensive but also require education that most people don't have the time to learn. This creates a culture of game designers who are either full throated reactionaries or just bland libs who belive in meritocracy. This causes gaming to eventually become reactionary especially combined with Nintendo's sexist marketing campaigns in the 90's

    • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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      4 years ago

      That time Gamers demands video games to be considered as art is so they can pretend that they're more profound than they actually are, but once they realized that games being art means that its open to criticism is when they did 180 and gaslights everyone into thinking that they never want such thing.

      • KarlBarx [they/them,he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Tell a gamer or even some devs that not all games should be fun and they'd doo doo themselves

      • HumanBehaviorByBjork [any, undecided]
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        4 years ago

        In my experience, the "games are actually art" thing peaked in the days of Jack Thompson, Brown v. EMA, and Roger Ebert in the 00s, when the industry wanted to drill that into consumers' heads so they wouldn't get regulated.

        Personally I believe games can be art, but first we have to kill all gamers.

  • fishnwhistle420 [he/him]
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    I’ve realized lately that video games are a major net negative for me and I’m not epileptic I’ve just wasted half my life on them when I coulda been reading or some shit. I can’t imagine doing it anyway half expecting a seizure at any moment

    • kristina [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      i have some chronic pain issues and video games help me deal with it without overmedicating so thats kinda why i like them

  • came_apart_at_Kmart [he/him, comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    i saw a guy have a seizure at work once. first time i ever saw a seizure. he just simply fell out of his office chair and started seizing. for the first second we thought he was goofing around, because it was that sort of place sometimes (i.e. it sucked). but then we could see his face. someone called an ambulance. i ran downstairs with some people to flag down and direct the paramedics when they showed up (big office building in a big office park).

    it was scary as shit. he later said he had no history of them. he was maybe early 30s, chill guy with a good sense of humor. we visited him in the hospital after our shifts. he said it just made him feel tired. he ended up OK, but goddamn. i was like maybe 24 and couldn't wrap my head around it. the company was bought out and everyone was laid off/scattered to the wind later that year, so i have no clue what happened to him.

    anyone who would try to induce a seizure in someone has a doomed soul.