• GenderIsOpSec [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Vespasian imposed a Urine Tax (Latin: vectigal urinae) on the distribution of urine from Rome's public urinals (the Roman lower classes urinated into pots, which were later emptied into cesspools). The urine collected from these public urinals was sold as an ingredient for several chemical processes. It was used in tanning, wool production, and also by launderers as a source of ammonia to clean and whiten woollen togas. The buyers of the urine paid the tax.

    The Roman historian Suetonius reports that when Vespasian's son Titus complained about the disgusting nature of the tax, his father held up a gold coin and asked whether he felt offended by its smell. When Titus said "No," Vespasian replied, "Yet it comes from urine".

    Translation: Shut the fuck up and take the money.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      Urine was big money until the 1950s and frankly it astonishes me we literally piss it away today given it's an amazing chemical feedstock.

      • space_comrade [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I'd imagine the logistics of collecting it from households would be more expensive than just synthesizing the relevant chemicals.

        • Koolio [any]M
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          4 years ago

          Though, it could be an interesting solution to the pharma-polution that's caused by urine.

    • CountryRoads [fae/faer,it/its]
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      4 years ago

      Money has been associated with Bad Things (shit, piss, dirt, evil, guilt, shame) basically since the concept of exchange was invented. Money actually used to be something separate from the process of exchanging useful goods. Early societies basically used "money" objects as a way to swing their dick around. If you have away a lot of money, it meant you were a Big Deal and the person who took it took all the guilt away.

      This is an important lesson today because NGOs and charity - which the Left is obsessed with - is that exact same impulse.

      Marcel Mauss's The Gift covers this in more detail if you want a read.

        • deshara218 [any]
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          4 years ago

          a majority of americans have been homeless at some point but what they mean by "homeless" is "they moved out of an apartment then the apartment they were moving into fell thru so they stayed in a hotel for a few days". There's even a term for it; the invisible homeless, bc every single one of your coworkers at your job or the ppl at a restaurant you go to could be going thru it & you wouldn't notice, nobody calls the cops to murder them. It's harrowing for it to happen to poor young people bc they're riding the razor's edge & don't have the means to connect the dots every time and have to sleep in their car for a while, but it also allows rich people to claim to have experienced adversity bc their stay at the mar-a-lago was a few days longer than they expected it to be and they had to call the help and change the address they're moving all of that person's stuff to

  • Shmyt [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    Liberalism is literally beyond parody. Imagine not wanting your own tax money. Imagine refusing the money instead of just takimg it and donating or giving it to someone in need of the concept of it in your bank account or paying your overdue bills is soooo repulsive. Yeet it at planned parenthood, PSL, or the SRA, or the homeless near you if you don't trust orgs, or just use it to pay for drugs and shit. All money is blood money, welcome to capitalism: try to help the other people trapped here instead of making hellworld harder.

    • hotcouchguy [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Excuse me, my consumption is ethical and I demand recognition for it.

  • Washburn [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    Imagine living in the imperial core and thinking that this is the first bloody dollar you're getting lol

    • lvysaur [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I wanna slap some fat white middle classcheeks

  • radicalhomo [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    lol if she were working class she probably wouldn't be saying this

  • VHS [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    the money comes from taxes... this is like saying you won't take your own money back from someone