That’s pretty cool
Very cool! 🚀
TFW you have a better chance of making it onto (and surviving a trip in) a Chinese rocket than Elongated Muskrat's rockets
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lol, the only good thing neo-liberalism has done is rely on market forces to develop its space program. The inevitable failure of which has left planets available for commie colonies so we can escape and just leave them to their toxic oven planet while X Æ A-12 III continues his patriarch's tradition of failing spectacularly
Weird how no IFLS or NatGeo had ad-facefucked me into caring about this since 3 years ago.
Don't know about that, but the last time I turned a TV, Nat Geo was fellating the NASA cuz they were gonna send another robot in 15 years or something.
They're gonna beat Elon to landing a person on Mars and I hope it makes him cry.
When China puts a person on Mars, American media won't give it 1/100th the attention they gave to the royal wedding.
I can already see the headlines for the day it happens... "China Turns Dead Planet Red: 'This is a tragic day for the human race' tweets President Musk."
CHINAbad hasn't even militarized their federal space program what a bunch of nerds amirite fellow americans? Why bother sending people up into space if they can't shoot at aliens with their P90s.
Truth, tbh I only used P90 here because I was watching SG-1 last night and its on my brain; no shade being thrown here lol
There's a neat video (in Chinese but with visuals) on wikipedia outlining the whole mission.
So how long until Space Force actively starts denying and shooting down space flights, launches, and whatever else?
The technical developments of a space program go beyond just look to space for science. They create a novel problem which can create other technical development. We are speaking because of such developments. Communications, rescue equipment, medical technologies have been revolutionized by the new perspectives of the space problems. Modern digital image sensor used in camera, etc is a product of such as well. Solar energy cell as well.
A novel problem can be very helpful and revealing. In my work even adapting a smaller version of an existing bus design revealed many flaws and helped us improve.
i can understand that if we're talking like, 2019 or earlier, but there's a global pandemic happening rn. even if chinas got it more under control than most, i still think that the money going to the space programs should be put on hold and put towards global emergency aid.
china put lots of money into this project. i think that money couldve been spent better elsewhere. i dont know what that has to do with the labor of the people working on the project.
The point is you're looking at it as purely a monetary thing, which is misleading. At the end of the day monetary allocation is an abstraction for the allocation of resources and labour. If the resources and labour (which were probably mostly spent before covid started as the majority of the project takes place in the 18 months before launch) couldn't be spent more effectively on fighting covid then it likely isn't affecting the fight against covid. Also it's really tough to argue that China's rocket launch is affecting their covid fight considering they have covid largely under control.
That's extremely shortsighted thinking. You can't just temporarily halt funding and expect it to pick back up when you refund it. A year of funding stopped does a lot more than a year of damage.
That's an extremely shitty way of looking at the world. You don't believe in the value of science?
Why? You one of those "humanity is the virus" people?
The ship probably launched like 8 months ago and launch windows for mars only come once every two years. This isn't something you really shut down in the last minute.
I've said it before, but humans being unable to leave earth is incredibly unfair to everything else that lives here.
HUMIES GTFO
the chance of finding life on a planet is incredibly low tho, especially sentient life. terraforming would be good
Terraforming is fine but has anyone thought about the logistics of populating other planets with animals? I'm not so sure animals zero gravity spaceships will go so well.
My idea of a good future at this point is we all live in earth's orbit and you can go back down but like explicitly to heal the earth, to do careful ecological studies/projects, and MAYBE some heavily moderated sustainable agriculture as a treat if it isn't deathly radioactive down there.
do u think aliens are pro self determination therefore know their place on they own planet?
i never argued that the defense budget isnt terrible and i never will.
or, this is a thread about a space program, so i made a comment about how spending on space seems wasteful right about now. i never argued there werent worse ways to spend money, just that there are better ways. i think thats a fair take
i know rocket ships are fun but you cant act like $25 billion isnt a fuck ton of money that could be better spent elsewhere right now. i really dont know why everyone is acting like this is a super hot take.
I think you're conflating a flippant purchase with a low-stakes long term investment that may or may not pay off.
I like Murray Bookchin. A Marxist with credentials who saw beyond scarcity politics. Something has to happen to get us there and that's either fusion, space, or resource exploitation of the global south as has fueled every other age since colonialism developed. If we can exploit resources in space, that's less of a burden of resources on Earth. The living space you could create in orbital habitats with orbital factories is so vast that there wouldn't need to be such a focus on development here. It opens new scales for exploitation but we're already damned if we continue to do what we're doing and renewable energy will only get us so far into decarbonised industry. At least it's something that reduces the damage we do in the human-nature dialectic even if we're stuck with the same struggle that would probably evolve anyway as it always has.
orbiting, landing and roving in one mission. based.
https://www.msn.com/en-xl/video/other/xinhua-headlines-china-s-tianwen-1-probe-enters-orbit-around-mars/vi-BB1dzyQ9
