just as chauvinist about their cuisine as they are racist
Edit: Just want to clarify, Japanese is easily one of my favourite cuisines. Thai's probably #1 for me though.
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I hope the OP isn't serious. Pretty sure the sample size on most of those countries is like half a dozen people. I mean where the fuck do you go to find some Peruvian food without going so completely out of your way. And the more out of your way you have to go to eat something the more likely it is you will have some extreme opinion about it(e.g you ate it because you were with a friend that forced you, or you had this unique opportunity to eat at some exotic restaurant once but the experience was either great or horrible).
In short I would refrain from being a bigot and calling entire nations racist because the whole dozen or so people surveyed by this random western said they didn't like [insert random cousine from country across the planet here].
I mean if you actually look at this graph all you are seeing is that the Indonisia/Thai/China/Japan all dislike everything that isn't local or completely generic western(Italian = pizza, American = McDonald).
Translation: My opinion on Japan is based exclusively on white sexpat YouTubers who don't speak Japanese.
Stop helping to prop up the White Supremacist narrative that Asians are somehow the most racist.
White Supremacist narrative that Asians are somehow the most racist
It's a well-documented fact that the Japanese treat their Chinese and Philipino foreign workers like absolute dog shit, which matches up with their historical record.
Ah yes, you are representative of every foreign ex-pat worker in the country. And don't assume that I'm white, I'm a Chinese-Mongolian who was born in Inner Mongolia, don't try to use liberal id-pol against me.
I wasn't calling you a cracker at all. Maybe you're the one that needs go spend more time reading.
The vast majority of "Japan is racist" takes on the internet come from white people who have never lived in Japan. They're just parroting other white people they've seen or heard do the same. You really think that even 10% of the crackers on Reddit going "hur hur hur Japan racist" has even set foot in the country? Get real.
And when you dig down into it, 90% of white youtubers complaints about racism are just them complaining about not being part of the majority for the first time.
Oh, someone held eye contact with you for a second too long because you look different? Fuck those racists for staring at you! Someone handed you a fork in addition to chopsticks? How dare those bigots assume that you can't use chopsticks?! A Japanese person idly told you 日本語が上手ですね as random chitchat? Fuck those patronizing 右翼団体!
Why am I so butt hurt about people mindlessly parroting this shit? Because the idea that "Asians are the most racist" is right now being used by white supremacists to justify anti-Asian violence and discrimination in the West.
And do you know how I know how you, specifically you are also ignorantly parroting shit too? Because when you went grasping for demographics to prove Japanese racism, you went straight by the current hot topic issue of Vietnamese groups and went straight for the much older and more well known in the West shit about Chinese and Filipinos/as.
Are there racists in Japan? Fuck yeah there are. Which country doesn't have racism? But uncritically repeating allegations about an entire country you demonstrably know very little about only furthers the white supremacist agenda of demonizing Asian people as being somehow even more racist than Neo-Nazis.
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If you truthfully, honest to god intended to call the people I associate with crackers rather than me, then I suggest that the issue is with your writing rather than my reading.
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Perhaps it's true that Japan gets called racist undeservedly by white ex-pats, but my impression of Japan comes largely from my relative who immigrated to Japan for work, media from the likes of Singapore's CNA, various Chinese new media, and independent journos like Asian Boss. While I understand that these sources are inevitably biased, especially the Chinese sources, these claims cannot simply be rejected as "yellow peril 2"
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While it's true that the "Asians are the most racist" narrative is being used as an instrument used to discriminate against Asians, but that doesn't justify the willful ignorance of Japan's ethnocentrism.
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A bold assumption that turned out to be wrong, I bring up the discrimination to the Chinese and Filipino foreign worker community because I am Chinese and I have many Filipino friends, it's natural that these issues would be more relevant to my mind than the issue with the Vietnamese community. Additionally, here you clearly acknowledge that Japan has poor race relations with Vietnamese, Chinese, and Filipino workers where you were implying that this was not true in an earlier comment.
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I agree that you will find racists in every country out there, but I believe that Japan is different. Japan has a historical record of being uncompromisingly ethnocentric and as someone whose family suffered through the consequences of this ethnocentrism, I believe that I am reasonably suspicious of the state that inherited much of its administration from the Japanese Empire.
And there we go. You don't speak Japanese and base all your information on second and third hand accounts. Absolute ignorance trying to yell over someone who's lived and worked there for years and speaks the language.
I guess I can't believe that slavery happened because I don't have first hand accounts, and I suppose that I should just never study history because I can only get second and third hand accounts LMAO. Stop jerking yourself off for being able to speak Japanese you pathetic fuck. This is what Japanese nationalism does to a mf, makes your brain all smooth.
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You said you weren't going to listen to a cracker after calling him "oh wise and all-knowing white man" lmao
what will convince you then? of course, you will never be convinced, as you can never wake up someone who is pretending to be asleep.
racism being prevalent in every single country does not justify it
you literally just called an asian a "cracker", are you okay? have you checked up on your reading comprehension? have you graduated grammar school yet? good lord
ironically, you yourself are being racist by assuming that anyone who disagrees with you must be white
Nobody here said they were more racist than the West
My opinion on Japan is based on meeting and knowing dozens of Japanese people during my life, hearing racist statements, and reading about Japan's history and current attitudes.
For a while I was taught Japanese by a Japanese man who told a good friend of mine that Koreans are stupid and Chinese people are dirty. He said it very casually because my friend was also Japanese.
Most Japanese people I know are really nice and don't express any overt racism. The same is true of most people.
I've personally known quite a few black folks who said racist things against Asians, yet I don't make blanket statements about how black people are racist
Either I'm wrong, and black people are racist, or you're wrong and you shouldn't smear 100+ million people based on the tiny sample size of "dozens".
Which one is it?
Holy shit do you think Austria is racist
You said my opinion was based on fucking white youtubers. It's based on reading about what Japan has done, what they continue to do, and their attitudes which I have also seen first hand. They were literally the most imperialist racist country outside of Europe, built basically a form of fascism and codified racism and slavery, and then hastily threw a bunch of pacifism on top of it less than one lifetime ago. There are huge problems with nationalism and genocide denialism existing to this day.
If it doesn't meet your criteria for "a racist country" then I don't know what the fuck does, and you have some incredibly inadequate goals for Western countries.
"Smear 100 million people" lol fuck off
https://kendawg.medium.com/this-is-what-black-on-asian-crime-looks-like-ac41e740a87c blacks are racist against asians though. this is not a disputed fact. this is just the truth.
ironically, you are helping prop up the white supremacist narrative that all asians are the same by grouping all these unimaginably different ethnic groups together. it's like grouping, say koreans and japanese together into the same group is like grouping russians and germans into the same group! it doesn't make sense!
The grounds for the modern idea of "asians are so racist" feel like mostly a kind of surprised reaction to the racism and discrimination still preservering inside a supposed ethnostate. It's mostly because we take western ideas of "racism amount" to a different context and get surprised that "pan-asian unity" isn't a thing considering they "pretty much look the same" and that people that we'd consider essentially the same "race" as Japanese people (Koreans, Ainu, and even Burakumin) still are discriminated. The shit you're talking about is mostly an modern internet idea from white people feeling foreign in a foreign land that has dictated most discussions among nerds.
Japan has one of the lowest immigration rates in the world despite needing it probably more than any other country.
"Who is the most racist" isn't a pissing contest, but if it was Japan would give the rest of the world a run for their money.
Not gonna lie, Japan as a country is awful, but I think a lot of the hate wanking I see on this site for Japanese culture is because a bunch of white leftist dudes found a non-white, non-western country with a long history of imperialism and got a boner at the idea of having a woke reason to drag an Asian culture.
Also to piss off the weebmacht type nerds that stopped existing about 10 years ago
I'm confused, this chart has "British cuisine" above 0. Someone must have made a mistake.
This is just a measure of cuisine prevalence. How many people polled actually know what Norwegian, UAE or Saudi Arabian cusine even is?
Probably not many, but if they conducted the study well there shouldn't be any sampling bias in that way. The chart says "of people that have tried a cuisine."
So it's less a measure of cuisine prevalence and more a measure of how compatible tastes are between different cultures. I think that's what they're getting at at least.
If the goal of this series of polls was to determine the most popular cuisines in the world then ... 6 one way half dozen the other?
How the hell can you even say you don't like all of the food from the ocean? There's a stupid variety and there's no way you've tried even most of it.
Substitute seafood, and if you're not vegan, different kinds of ocean eggs. And different kinds of seaweed besides nori.
Also, there are many, many brainless sea animals, like bivalve molluscs.
Not when you have experienced the delightful crunch- no, not a crunch, a pop
The question is whether it's delicious, not whether they abstain from it. Also, there are many varieties of edible seaweed. Probably weirder stuff, too.
I learned the secret of using seaweed flakes as a condiment and it is stealing it's power.
Pickeled plum is amazing though.
Same, but that's bc seafood has always been my favorite food. In kindergarten my favorite food was octopus. I did not have many friends
in a sane world: pemmican, wild foraged ingredients like cloudberries, maine blueberries, copper river salmon
I need to know what is wrong with Peruvian Cuisine.
Also is Australian Cuisine like...vegimite? Or is it like trendy gourmet asian/western fusion vegan cafes?
Yeah, we have some good stuff in the dessert section. Pies are good but more or less equal to good local British pies, though the filling is generally higher quality.
(though realistically most people don't eat kangaroo, it's become a little bit more popular but like a lot of game meat its harder to cook and often more expensive)
Nothing against the food, just the poll took into account ubiquity. So small sample sizes and low acculturation (see also: Finland, Saudi Arabia) means they don't get a fair shake.
Spanish cousine being above the Peruvian cousine is what imperialism is about. Fucking madness.
these country comparisons are always bullshit because they compare entire continents with billions of people (India, China) to pointless micronations like the Czech Republic
I can't name a single Spanish dish off the top of my head. I don't even know what Spanish food ... is?
Peruvian, on the other hand. Well I mean there's ceviche that's obvious.
I used to have a few Peruvian dishes in my home rotation, but all I can remember was stews with pesto and pasta in them, or Japanese fusion stuff.
goddamnit this is the second time today I saw a post, thought of a comment, and came to post it only to find you'd already posted basically the same thing :angery:
Nothing, Am*rica has no culture and no cuisine, it's all shit taken from other countries and labelled as "Am/rican" because insecure idiots can't create something of their own.
Wtf this chart, peruvian food is so good
One friend told me he has an uncle living in the US and he tells him that what he misses the most about living in chile was the many peruvians restaurants
Lomo salteado, Causas, tacu tacu, tons of fish and seafood, so many delicious stuff.
It's probably the relative obscurity of Peruvian food. Fewer people from around the world have had it, and as a consequence fewer people surveyed said they have tried it and liked it.
I've visited Japan a few times and it is rough if you're vegan or vegetarian. That's probably my biggest frustration with the place. It's lovely to visit and hang out but I doubt I could stay there for an extended period without just defaulting to some kind of basic rice and bean diet.
One time a street vendor called me over, showed me the offerings, I gave a kind of apology and explained I don't eat meat, then he responded in Japanese then English "the meat is delicious, so don't worry" lol. Also had a few vendors and restaurant workers try to tell me that a dish only had a little bit of meat, so it's all fine. I must have seemed like the biggest asshole foreigner on Earth, which didn't help my anxiety any.
Tips if anyone goes there: Be really adamant on asking what's in your food. Being vegetarian often just isn't understood well there, but maybe you've dealt with this sort of thing already. It's quite easy to avoid dairy since it's often not present in Japanese cuisine, eggs and fish are another story. They're almost ubiquitous. Ask if a meal has fish, but even then you might not get a good answer because it might have dashi/bonito (dried fish flakes) or one of the various types of Japanese caviar/roe (masago, tobiko, ikura, etc) that might not be identified as a fish product. Also, really research sauces. A bunch of Japanese dishes use sauces that contain squid ink or oyster sauce, like okonomiyaki.
Most people will know the word "vegetarian" (ベジテリアン bejitarian) or at least they have so far with me, but it's been interpreted 100% of the time as me being cool with eating shellfish or roe or whatever. On one occasion I went to a place that had a dish labeled "vegetarian tempura" so of course I went for that one, except one of the things on the plate was tempura shirako (fried fish semen) which honestly was so funny I didn't even get annoyed.
Things that you can eat: Japanese curry is pretty much everywhere and can easily be obtained without meat/fish. Ramen's ubiquitous and is often made to vegan standards so long as it has mushroom broth, just make sure it wasn't made with bonito or dashi. Soba is everywhere and often made without meat. If you get truly frustrated and you're around a large-ish city, there are often a lot of Indian or Chinese restaurants with a lot more vegetarian options than standard Japanese food.
fried fish semen
honestly if you enjoy it and the fish enjoys it, what's the problem?
That is news to me. I thought there was a greater vegetarian tradition in Asian countries than in western.
Japanese culture, from what I understand, just considers seafood part of vegetarian diets. As in you'll get weird looks if you ask for no fish in your vegetarian meal.
I think if you specifically look for shojin ryori, you'll get vegan food. Probably.
Maybe across the board or in general across Asia, but Japanese cuisine in particular is pretty scant on vegetarian options due to the heavy prominence of seafood.
Japanese food is why I cant see myself ever being vegetarian. I dont see how you do it.
I have a delicate appetite and the taste of meat or fish makes me gag, so it's just kind of automatic for me.
Oh I totally get that. I have issues with texture of onions. My brain really does not like them at all so I usually avoid them if I can.
Peruvian cuisine being ranked at the bottom, below the bland Scandinavian cuisines, makes me think this is fake news.
Frankly, Scandinavian cuisine is better when it's bland. When it isn't bland, it's a war crime.
I think the percentage is just the percentage of people who said they like it. Not that they said they love it the most or think that it's the best. It seems pretty reasonable to say that 90% + of the people in any given country would say they like their own cuisine. If they didn't like it, it wouldn't be their cuisine, would it?
