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Of course, I say this as a diaspora Asian of sorts.

Noizumi is half-Japanese, and she found herself thinking, “Why am I so excited that my daughter has blue eyes? What’s the big deal about that? And why am I so excited that I have a baby who looks more white?”

This is the kind of statement that would get a white celebrity cancelled for saying it, but apparently it's just a fun tidbit for Netflix.

In their early creative conversations that would eventually span 15 years, they started spinning a tale about how “back in the Edo period starting in 17th-century Japan, it would’ve been illegal to be white.

Wtf based Edo period.

CW: Rape

According to some of the promotional materials, the main character is a product of rape of a Japanese woman by a white man, which is a terrible and insensitive if they play it straight and a weeb fantasy if they redeem the dad at the end.

Idk if the series is as good as they say, but how the fuck did they think that publishing any of this was a good idea?

    • JohnBrownNote [comrade/them, des/pair]
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      1 year ago

      if she had left it there, unusual eye colors are neat. but she just had to keep going

      And why am I so excited that I have a baby who looks more white

      cringe

      • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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        1 year ago

        When the global empire rewards people for a physical appearance that aligns with the Supremacist Ideal, it isn't unreasonable for a parent to think "Wow! My kid really dodged a bullet, by looking like someone the Aristocracy will not actively seek to exterminate."

        Its an instinctual survivalist response. I wouldn't want my kid targeted for ethnic cleansing either.

        • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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          1 year ago

          However imagine the life that kid will have. They'll have to deal with the racism and self hate straight from their parents. That messes people up.

          • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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            1 year ago

            They'll have to deal with the racism and self hate straight from their parents.

            Idk about that. They've got blue eyes, so they'll be treated like the Golden Child.

            I'm more worried about any siblings who didn't win the genetic lottery.

            • oregoncom [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Every wasian I've met raised by these people has been deeply traumatized. Most of them aren't far away from being the next Elliot Rogers.

            • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              They've got blue eyes, so they'll be treated like the Golden Child.

              Idk im not sure being semi-fetishised by your own damn parents is very healthy

            • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
              hexagon
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              1 year ago

              Even if the parents treat the kid well, it's possible that they'll get fucked up in the head if the parents' expectations don't match society. That Elliot Rodger incel mass shooter was by all accounts treated very well by his parents, but he ended up as an incel mass shooter because he thought he was entitled to women anyway. If you read his posts, he definitely thought he was special because he was half white.

        • Anxious_Anarchist [they/them, any]
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          1 year ago

          Was about to comment this, it's a response to internalized oppression and white suprememcy, it's a good thing that she was questioning those thoughts about her baby.

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
            hexagon
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            1 year ago

            The article makes it sound like she had a Principal Skinner moment.

            "Have I internalized white supremacist self-hating sentiment?"

            "No, my child will be an Aryan ubermensch."

  • heartheartbreak [fae/faer]
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    1 year ago

    Every sentence is twice as racist as the last one lmfao.

    These people really looked at their 3/4 white child and said "I LOVE how white it is. Also Japan Samurai!!"

    • booty [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I love references to Yasuke. His life is just such a fun story. It feels so innocent in a way. Imagine seeing somebody who looks really unusual and literally just not knowing why. You haven't really heard stories of people who look like this. Nobody's got any racist tirades they can go on. It's just a novelty. He may as well be from another planet as far as you're concerned. I think it demonstrates quite well that racism isn't some kind of ingrained behavior that's inherent to humanity. The natural reaction to somebody who looks different is to be like "Huh, that's neat. I wonder if he wants to be friends." You have to be taught to be racist and afraid of the unknown.

        • AernaLingus [any]
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          1 year ago

          In the future, you can just stick a backslash in front to escape the quote markdown and get the desired result, so

          \>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
          

          becomes

          >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      People like Yasuke and General Ganibal are very interesting to me because Gamers love to screech about "historical accuracy" as if Africans would have been killed on sight back then but irl it's like "Cool, a person with black skin. Let's make him a samurai or general if he's good at his job."

  • Mardoniush [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Ugh, they could have just made it a genuine romance and it would have been...still problematic...but at least potentially a good exploration of early colonialism and it's complexities.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      It's extremely off-putting. I heard one mom-to-be say that she hopes her child "wins the genetic lottery" of blonde hair and blue eyes.

      Ick.

  • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    More like White worship was a mistake. Lots of non-white people talk like this and it's gross. These types will pass up gorgeous poc for some mediocre or ugly white person just so they can have kids with lighter skin and colored eyes. The kids usually grow up with a number of mental health issues too.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      Yeah, the title is mostly a joke. I don't really care if someone is gonna date some mid-looking person of another race, but this kind of white worship is so fucked up for the kids and it's just not fair.

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        I actually do mind if they date someone mid-looking after trashing people of their own race as being ugly for having darker skin. It shows they view their partner as nothing more than a breeding mule for their white looking children. I have people like this in my family and I've lost any patience for this kind of bullshit.

        • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          Apparently, this is her husband: https://ik.imagekit.io/870xgzp1i/hocmarketing-org/11/04/og--behind-the-scenes-with-blue-eye-samurai-drawing-inspiration-from-clint-eastwood-infusing-live-action-vibes-into-animation?tr=w-600,h-400

            • AlpineSteakHouse [any]
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              1 year ago

              By all means dunk on the guy for being a weirdo nerd but can we not body shame people as if that has anything to do with their shitty behavior?

              From the picture, they seem to be at around the same level of attractiveness and even seem to have matching brainworms so a good match altogether.

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    • smollittlefrog@lemdro.id
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      1 year ago

      The kids usually grow up with a number of mental health issues too.

      What is the intended implication of this statement? Are you trying to imply that dating someone because of the colour of their skin (instead of going for someone more fitting, regardless of their skin colour) leads to dysfunctional relationships which have negative impact on their children?

  • Trudge [Comrade]@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    It's a natural reaction to the American social dynamics. Asian Americans instinctively understand that they'll always be a foreigner in other American's eyes (and their own eyes as well due to internalized racism). They wish the best for their children, which means fitting in by being white. Getting a white spouse is a deliberate defense mechanism against a hostile society as well.

    Racialization of national and personal identity isn't a problem only in Israel.

  • aaaaaaadjsf [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Noizumi is half-Japanese, and she found herself thinking, “Why am I so excited that my daughter has blue eyes? What’s the big deal about that? And why am I so excited that I have a baby who looks more white?”

    What the actual fuck. Blue eyes can look cool, but why tie it in with race? What the fuck

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Almost all Japanese people have dark brown eyes. The only other eye colours you might see are light brown or green and those are only in pretty specific regions of the country.

      Because of this blue eyes are viewed as a distinctly caucasian-ancestry thing.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      I'm guessing that being allied to the Nazis then being under American occupation gives you certain ideas about physical features and race.

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  • muddi [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    I am a brown guy and wore colored contacts for a phase in my life. It was for myself, and yes admittedly it was an icebreaker for the ladies if nothing else.

    But it ended up really creepy and sad how people only noticed me then, specifically in terms of how not-brown I looked and what my possible genetic background might be. And if I revealed that they were "fake" (in their words), some of them were really harsh about me trying to be someone I can't be.

    I don't wear them anymore.

  • darkmode [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Noizumi is half-Japanese, and she found herself thinking, “Why am I so excited that my daughter has blue eyes? What’s the big deal about that? And why am I so excited that I have a baby who looks more white?”

    pain

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
      hexagon
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      1 year ago

      And instead of asking herself deep introspective questions, she just went "YAY WHITE BABY!'

      • RedQuestionAsker2 [he/him, she/her]
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        1 year ago

        Principal Skinner: Should I reflect on my reflexive celebration of whiteness?

        Principal Skinner: No, it's just great to be White.

  • Umechan [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    back in the Edo period starting in 17th-century Japan, it would’ve been illegal to be white.

    Sounds like America in 2023. /s

    • GarfieldYaoi [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      NOOOOO: "Nooo, you mean le heckin' Based Japan was once WOKE!? NOOOOOOO!"

  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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    1 year ago

    what the fuck?

    Also I'm fairly certain there was some part of the japanese cultural historical period that had being as un-sun-kissed pale white as possible being a desirable trait among imperial courtiers because it was a sign of not being a stinking poor peasant. I'm thinking it's from the Heian period.

    And I'm gonna go out on a limb based off of the historiography I've read, it wasn't illegal to be "white" in the Edo period, it was illegal to be a gaijin bleach demon imperialist invading Japan - something that's not exclusively "uniquely Japanese", much to the Japanese ultra-nats and weeb nazis chagrin, as Korea and China generally considered the roving european bandits who called themselves "explorers" and "traders" to be barbarians to be kept away. - which means this diasporian asian's been yankeefied to the point she's obsessed with becoming european to the point of mythologizing history

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    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      that had being as un-sun-kissed pale white as possible being a desirable trait among imperial courtiers because it was a sign of not being a stinking poor peasant. I'm thinking it's from the Heian period.

      yes but a white guy who works in the sun would also have their skin tan so it wouldn't really make any difference. East asian people don't actually have skin that looks all that darker than white people do

      race is made up and arbitrary, before the opium wars the chinese were considered white. In south africa being Japanese made you legally white

      it was once popular in england to call the Irish white skinned black people (and that's the nice way of putting it)

  • CrushKillDestroySwag
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    1 year ago

    All I've done is read the article and watched the trailer.

    I hate the animation style

    I hate the music

    The story sounds formulaic

    I'm probably gonna skip this one.