https://twitter.com/RnaudBertrand/status/1732627752162095512

add a new one to the Victims of Communism Memorial Foundation.

  • NecroticEuphoria@lemmy.ml
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    9 months ago

    “During the cold war, the anticommunist ideological framework could transform any data about existing communist societies into hostile evidence. If the Soviets refused to negotiate a point, they were intransigent and belligerent; if they appeared willing to make concessions, this was but a skillful ploy to put us off our guard. By opposing arms limitations, they would have demonstrated their aggressive intent; but when in fact they supported most armament treaties, it was because they were mendacious and manipulative. If the churches in the USSR were empty, this demonstrated that religion was suppressed; but if the churches were full, this meant the people were rejecting the regime's atheistic ideology. If the workers went on strike (as happened on infrequent occasions), this was evidence of their alienation from the collectivist system; if they didn't go on strike, this was because they were intimidated and lacked freedom. A scarcity of consumer goods demonstrated the failure of the economic system; an improvement in consumer supplies meant only that the leaders were attempting to placate a restive population and so maintain a firmer hold over them. If communists in the United States played an important role struggling for the rights of workers, the poor, African-Americans, women, and others, this was only their guileful way of gathering support among disfranchised groups and gaining power for themselves. How one gained power by fighting for the rights of powerless groups was never explained. What we are dealing with is a nonfalsifiable orthodoxy, so assiduously marketed by the ruling interests that it affected people across the entire political spectrum.”

    -Michael Parenti Blackshirts and the reds

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    9 months ago

    It's gonna be a hoot when all the Sinophobes start getting riled up about the evils of wage slavery, but exclusively in the context of what evil China is doing to the Uyghurs

  • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    Well shit, i was send to job fairs multiple times by the employment office and also get mandatory offers (mandatory because i would lose health insurance if i didn't go). And not only me, millions of people were in the same situation at some point.

    Adrian please write about this ongoing Polish genocide of Poles.

    • Azzu@lemm.ee
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      9 months ago

      If it's against someone's will, it's problematic. Making everyone into good worker drones may be desirable for the higher ups, but not for the individual.

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        9 months ago

        I have never applied to a job because I wanted to work. I have never consented to live in a society where I must pay most of my money each month to someone who does absolutely no work. Suicide rates have never been higher in the US. I'm not saying this to do an epic own online, but to point out that we should stop being selective with these valid criticisms, because doing so creates a false dichotomy that only benefits our own exploiters here at home.

      • LesbianLiberty [she/her]
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        9 months ago

        Those who were imprisoned were in for being East Turkistan Separatists, a terrorist org that had been killing hundreds in various knife attack sprees and mowing random people down with cars in major East-Coast cities. Would it problematic to remove the poverty from their lives to remove the main source of radicalism and train them for careers so that they're now able to have a job instead of needing to join a fascist organization?

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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          9 months ago

          "But did the individual consent to being deradicalized?" Is a great example of how myopically individualistic western society tends to be.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml
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        9 months ago

        Main problem about those job fairs and mandatory offers was that it never resulted in actual employment. Those "fairs" had 20 job posts ranging from Amazon work camp through shady mining job in some forsaken hole up to wiping asses of old fash in Germany, and those mandatory offers were also either scam jobs or telemarketing and the real purpose of it was to make you lose time and money and make you pissed off so you write off yourself from the office list so they can report lowering unemployment.

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        9 months ago

        Contrast with other countries, where people are free to not work.

  • nohaybanda [he/him]
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    9 months ago

    Strong “learning to read is a communist plot” energy.

    • SuperZutsuki [they/them, any]
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      9 months ago

      "Lmao stupid communists getting taught to read so they can be forced to read propaganda. Now, let me check NextDoor and Facebook for the latest news..."

  • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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    9 months ago

    The solution, obviously, is to give everyone in Taiwan an AMERICAN MADE m-16 and carpet bomb the factories. Then send in disruptors to raze the housing units and steal whatever possessions - anything of value - to stir chaos in the local government. This will create dual pressure from within and without and we can finally bulkanize China's vast resources for western investor hoarding. very-intelligent

      • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
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        9 months ago

        They will be uplifted in their new found freedom-and-democracy and will be featured in the wikipedia column next to the tiny amerikkka with a footnote. That's a prestige of being amerikkka 's friend. Very dapper!

        And we'll promote one of the most corrupt ones who is only loosely tied to the region through the relative of a relative in "exile" as the vice deputy vice chair of the Chief of Staff of the newly appointed totally not connected to the anglo-burn oil and gas and or weapons companies regional Viceroy.

        So they have representation, and a seat-ish at the table. liberalism

  • CrimsonSage [any]
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    9 months ago

    Let's be fair to zenz here, having a job is a form of torture.

    • CarbonScored [any]
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      9 months ago

      True. The Uyghurs are being genocided! In the same sense that all of us and the natural enjoyment of life is too.

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      9 months ago

      Most people who believe this genocide is happening have no idea who Adrian Zenz is. Look at when they try to source articles about it. They'll send you five. Four of those will all be direct Zenz citations and the other will be the Heritage Foundation.

    • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      "waaah, I hallucinated that God told me to destroy China, a which definitely isn't a manifestation of my internal racism, but no-ones believing the genocide I made up in a fever dream" - Zenz

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    9 months ago

    So the re-education was teaching them how to attach side view mirrors on an assembly line?

  • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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    9 months ago

    I don't really know how all of this plays into god's plan to destroy China, but somehow it must be. It's probably in the book of revelations somewhere or something.

    • What_Religion_R_They [none/use name]
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      9 months ago

      well you see, the worker having to continually buy his assured existence is actually a contradiction which, if unresolved, will destroy china

  • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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    9 months ago

    So they ditched the genocide narrative, then went to the cultural genocide narrative (which was more fair but still incomplete and misleading), and now they’re just railing against poor people having jobs and education?

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      9 months ago

      cultural genocide narrative (which was more fair but still incomplete and misleading)

      I disagree that it was "more fair". The cultural genocide narrative only makes sense to the vast majority to Westoids because Westoids tend to think of Islam as a monolith of Burkha-wearing Wahabis. Some of the "evidence" presented by Westoids of this cultural genocide was that Uyghur women were not wearing hijabs or burkhas, completely ignoring the fact that the traditional headwear for a Uyghur woman is neither of those things, but rather a colorful square hat.

  • Fishroot [none/use name]
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    9 months ago

    Zenz confirmed to be member of the IMT related Fightback Symbionese Liberation Army caucus since he correctly stated that wage exists in China proving that the Stalinist state didn't abolish value form