Yeah, I actually get weirdly irritated when the British or EUers talk shit, probably because they suck so much ass too, and are basically sinking in the same ways but at a different pace.
I get irritated when Europeans act like anti-black racism is exclusively American.
Euro Bro on the topic of America: "wow those Americans are so backwards with their racism"
Euro Bro on the topic of the Roma: "No, you dont get it, I'm not racist, they really are vermin"
i too am a true patriot of reeftannia.
:rat-salute:sink terf island :transshork-happy:
Free Ireland, Free Scotland, Free Wales, Free Northumberland, Sink Engl*nd
:party-sicko: the isle of wales is a scenic mountain vista on the western end of reeftannia :party-sicko:
The brave troops known as "Liverpool football fans" will protect us and establish Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism with Scouser characteristics
America is a corporation and a military that happens to have a country.
Some of the people, if the ones I work with are any indication, are super annoying tho
yeaaah. am american, can confirm, hate a lot of the people too.
not necessarily their fault what with the propaganda passed off as education, but god damn do a lot of folks around here need to log some serious gulag time.
"we aren't oppressed, its necessary, its not that bad, nothing to be done, its good (actually), just vote, etc. " at least, at the very least, be mad at your chains!
Remember hearing once that america is a first world country if you're rich and a third world country if you're poor. Don't mean to trivialize what the other countries we topple go through but feels right some times.
What's honestly considered third world, besides not being colonized by the west? Countries that we, 'the west', have just fucked up and left stranded?
Dying from lack of healthcare, water being contaminated with lead, heavy police repression, legal system that favors the rich, infrastructure in poorer areas left to crumble, and if you want a chance out you have to indebt yourself for decades or more for a degree maybe. Maybe this isn't the definition of third world but I remember people saying how a lot of companies go into poorer cities suck up the wealth and leave.
All that, besides healthcare and water, is our influence isn't it? Even the fact that they're considered countries now. Like we influenced and exploited them, offering only the worst parts of our society. Those same parts that are becoming more apparent here by the day, and the same reasons why I hate this country.
its definitely not the definition, but it is how its used colloquially.
and it does describe the conditions of americans outside the ivory tower.
Been reading, very slowly and using the red menace episode to help digest, wretched of the earth. Some of the things have been rolling around in my head like how the experiences a lot of minorities in this country face seem to mirror the experiences of the colonized. I know that america is the biggest colonizer but it also does it at home. Fanon talks about that in order to colonize the colonialist has to other the colonized and take a way their humanity but have to prepare when they fight back to try to reaffirm their humanity. I think this is where BLM comes into place in trying to fight back against this system that dehumanizes them. Minorities in this country have faced state repression since the beginning of our history but are starting to receive attention. Sorry if I'm rambling a bit but might need some time to sort things out and finish reading before it fully sets in.
Exactly, black neighborhoods and cities in America have essentially the same problem as former colonies today: the residents don't own anything. Money is drained from communities and split among several corporations or small business tyrants.
The book also talks about how some of the colonized will be elevated to a position of power that helps keep the current order. Thinking about black capitalism being presented as a solution to the income inequality present in these communities.
like @shitstorm said, you are exactly right.
the colonization of the black community transitioned over time from people being the wealth that was extracted from africa to an apartheid regime where the u.s repeatedly fights any attempt by the black community to coalesce, whether that be black wallstreet, black panthers, or black lives matter...
so its an interesting case study of colonial mindset remaining even as the conditions of the colonization changes
Even a lot of third world countries value their own citizens more than the US does.
As someone that drove thru rural Virginia over the summer, I can believe the sentiment
I've hated this country for a while, but the whole corona virus thing has turned my hate up to 11. Whenever I think about the fact that most Asian countries have the pandemic under control while in the US its spreading like wildfire, I am fucking filled with unspeakable rage at how lazy, incompetent, foolish, and self-interested the American ruling class and their media cronies are.
The worst thing to me is how many progressives say this but support America anyways "as the lesser evil" or whatever in situations like Libya. What's even weirder is that this often comes from libertarian-leaning types like Robert Evans (I know he isn't a socialist, but he certainly leans left). I genuinely can't understand why
That's the purpose of the relentless "{China, Russia, ...} bad" propaganda.
When China is clearly the lesser evil vs the US. I don’t think China’s perfect, but pretty much every critique of them is done worse in the US.
Russia I’m not as sure if there’s a meaningful distinction. Pretty oligarchical and imperialist as well but maybe they’re better just because they can’t do as much imperialism.
The United States has so much natural beauty, cultural diversity, and mostly great people.
Everything surrounding those things is a nightmare.
My anti-americanism eventually led me to become a socialist in a way, so its not a bad thing in some cases, sometimes i think i became a marxist out of spite
I don't hate America. I hate the ruling class, government and system we are stuck living in. But none of them represent the people. I like to think there are still good people here despite how bleak and hopeless the future looks for this country.
This might be a weird take but: you can't separate the ruling class and government from the American concept. America is the state. It's too fucking massive to be anything else coherent. The idea of "one America" is fundamentally disconnected from the actual communities that inhabit its stolen land. "The People" don't live in America, they live in Appalachia, or the Pacific Northwest, or NYC. The People exist locally, where America exists above and separate from them.
It's like that with every large country. You really think that people in Beijing are living the same as people in Yunnan? Likewise, in terms of Stolen Land, Eastern Germany rightful Slavic clay. My ancestors souls will not rest until the lands are reclaimed.
It's also a colonial state, so the people have existed only separate from the land. We live on top of America, but not really in it.
I like to think there are still good people here despite how bleak and hopeless the future looks for this country.
My dude you don't even gotta think that, like millions of people took to the streets this summer in the largest protest movement this country has ever seen
I feel the same way. I feel like there actually is a great version of America somewhere in here that you can almost catch sight of, whose potential is waiting to be unlocked.
That's what I believe. Our government, politicians and ruling class do not represent us in the slightest. There are still good people here. The anger at the government and ruling class are absolutely justified.
I honestly don't know how you could not hate this country. I have a slack channel with a lot of my friends so we can all keep in touch and everyone even the I guess now former libs regard the US as a completely failed state.
Back in my neutral/US favourable days, it was pretty much just the withholding of information. I just didn't know basically. Breaking through the propaganda bubble and learning about marxism felt like gaining a sixth sense. Stuff started becoming way clearer. My intense hatred for the US only just developed recently as I learned more and it's been cemented during COVID.
