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The guy literally does capitalist shit and yet western media is obsessed that he is restoring the soviet union. I want Lenin to wake up just to punch him in the mouth.
Putin: "we uhh must invade Ukraine because uhh blood and soil"
Online leftists: "omg so anti-imperialist, a $1.5T economy with 1M active duty soldiers and the largest nuclear stockpile in the world has no agency whatsoever, everything they do is orchestrated by the US but also I support them for some reason!"
Hexbears: “omg so fascist, this doesn’t comport at all with my western leftist aesthetics, how am I supposed to feel good about awarding my meaningless critical support if it’s not either AES or a weak country that’s already been hopelessly immiserated by its enemies?”
I am seeing that too, a growing number of people just want a good both sides take and leave it at that. I can understand but it is also not realy going to achieve anything novel because both sides being bad is already quite obvious.
Nobody is questioning that Putin is a capitalist pig, but the real conundrum of what to actually do when the US leaves you no choice is just heading straight up against the massive wall that is western leftists idealism, oh and there is a lot of idealism out there it turns out.
God am I glad to be skeptical of claims of AES being relevant to China. It makes it so much easier to not fall for false-choices that ask us to make fools of ourselves critically supporting people who would butcher us all given a chance.
God am I glad to be skeptical of claims of AES being relevant to China.
it doesn't sound like it tho
Context clues are a thing. The entire argument I was responding to was about critically supporting Russia because of China.
context doesn't override sheer explicit text though. IDRC if you have beef with China, I'm just saying that the sentence clearly implies that China is not AES (if that's your position then fine)
Oh, China isn't, but Russia is the state that would butcher us all given the chance.
Other online leftists: "It's totally okay that the Nazis in Ukraine were butchering ethnic minorities with US Backing, what's important is Russia bad"
Yes. He was literally propped up by American capitalists. r/GenZedong is really hyping the Russian side of the war right now lol. One of the front page posts is a propaganda video of Russian soldiers giving Ukrainian POWs cigarettes and acting like that’s how Russia is officially conducting war
Some people are happier being contrarían than leftist.
If it was the United Socialist States of America they'd be right wing.
Thank you for reminding me of the Red World mod for HOI4 and how Ben Shapiro is a spokesman for one of the US Socialist states
GenZedong is pretty gross (like most of Reddit) so I’m not surprised
Some prominent leftists on Twitter were making “Putin hype videos” last night. Shits whack.
Some people can't stop memeing to save their own lives. I can relate.
Just never let the :brainworms: :brainworms: get too big.that’s all one can hope for in life
One of the front page posts is a propaganda video of Russian soldiers giving Ukrainian POWs cigarettes and acting like that’s how Russia is officially conducting war
I think it is perfectly fair to point out, if it ends up being the case at the end, that if Russia can conduct war without the same level of humanitarian suffering as the US or all of the shit going on in Syria/Yemen that this level of human suffering is a political(more ideological even) choice and not a necessity or inevitability.
If the liberal democracies cared at all about their humanitarian concerns there are a dozen conflicts going on right now for them to try and do something about it.
However Russia will be put in the spotlight, so they are going to put on a show whenever they can. Genuine or not, political or not this is all a result of decades of humanitarian rethoric followed by absolutely zero action against US and allies war crimes.
Everything becomes a spectacle for all sides.
Now he is propped up by his local capitalists and acts in the interest of Russian oligarchs instead of European corporations, so he is enemy of the west.
GenZdong is controlled opposition. Just a bunch of right-wingers acting like how they imagine left-wingers act.
I don’t think that’s fair. I think the name is just reflective of the sub, they’re zoomers. I imagine many are in high school or fresh out of high school and still in their edgy phase
Yeah, and /teenagers is also just ordinary kids making edgy jokes and not Nazis trying to groom the next generation with fascist propaganda 😒
yes, that is part of the problem.
also what does it say about how bad the US and Ukraine are that a right-wing capitalist is “supposedly” doing denazification
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I don't think Russia is doing any denazification, also Azov battalion escaped to Poland sadly
That Nazi photoshoot that was published everywhere, yeah...
Which part, Russia not doing denazification, or Azov battalion fleeing?
Battalion fleeing. I’m not saying I have evidence they haven’t, but I’m sceptical of claims like that right now.
I expect there will be a component of ‘denazification’. The factions that pushed the Maidan coup have also prevented implementation of the diplomatic solution via Minsk 2. They’re likely what Putin means when he says ‘nazis’.
With them out of the picture, diplomacy comes back online.
From what I understand, the Azov battalion has been planning to “escape” and then continue on insurrection-style
Hopefully they get what they deserve in due time, the only good thing that could come of this war is the Azov battalion getting removed from the face of the earth
Russian also has its own Nazi groups in the military and Putin’s personal PMC is full on SS larpers
I mean the whole "wing" system isn't exactly something with a very prescriptive definition in the first place imo
social democracy is objectively the moderate wing of fascism :bugs-stalin:
Unironically this really need to be stated because the libs are going comrade putin gommie russia right now.
Putin represents the interests of his local bourgeoisie, which are reliant of the local exploitation of natural resources and industrial production. EU and the US represent the interests of the international bougeoisie which relies on financialization, free markets, and free flowing capital. This war is a good example of how the capitalist powers do indeed compete with each other, they compete with the each other for the right to exploit.
Today a fearful boomer told me that Putin is “trying to bring the USSR back by assembling all the former states in a Soviet domination plot” (exact quote)
Terminal brainworm infestation.
To blow this boomers mind, tell him about Yeltsin, then how Putin got into power, and almost joined NATO
It’d would be too much psychic damage, he’d never recover.
Tbh he’s a super nice guy, I’ve literally never heard him talk about politics at all before,ever. Since I don’t watch cable news, I assume what he’s saying is likely coming almost verbatim from that seeing as how this Russia-Ukraine stuff is being drummed up rn
Putin aims to restore something, but it‘s not the Soviet Union, which is ironic considering the slew of admiration for the Russian empire and the tsars in recent media productions (The Romanoffs comes to mind).
but have you considered Putin and Lenin have the same first name and Russia = Soviet Union?
more and more are saying it.
I'll never read this phrase and not think of :trump-anguish: now
He says that sounds like an okay idea but it would increase the budget and might be irresponsible. He's just asking questions, you know?
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