Rip to the last bastion of leftist shitposters on that hellsite
Contains a high volume of information not supported by credible sources.
Lmao at reddit of all places handing out pinocchios now
Weirdly none of the pro-Ukraine subs filled with provable lie after lie after lie are “misinformation”
Yes but their lies come from reddit-approved and state-department-approved "credible sources" whereas direct video and being able to see the ghost of kiev was done with ARMA 3 counts as a "not credible source."
Credible: Azov interviews on CNN and The Times making up lies about cosmonaut outfits
Misinfo: Videos of Roma and Russian people being publicly tortured and painted green by Ukronazis
Shoutout to Lemmy for being the refuge of like, all the leftist subs I used to use. Slowly being pushed away from that site, god bless
the creators of lemmy are mostly marxists, so that's why
theory matters, your politics fucking matter, contrary to what amerikkkan techwonks say
lemmygrad.ml seems to be their backup, if anyone posts there maybe give hexbear a shoutout
Yes, this site will die without federation, or some other way of creating an inflow of new users.
We became more active as inactive users returned to the site to discuss a major global event, which is a cycle that was common on r/cth as well. I haven't seen any evidence of sustainable growth in the site since it began, really.
Federation won't help immediately, since we outsize all the other Lemmy's, and the rest of the fediverse is very anarcho-succdem, but we're pretty short on options for exposure. I don't think there's an immediate danger of the site shutting down, but it needs a pipeline in the next year or two, if it's gonna have a chance.
Related, I can recommend this place to like 2 people i know IRL, and even then it's just shooting them the occasional link rather than a real invitation. A more liberal leaning instance that works as a Reddit alternative would be much better for pipelining those sorts of people. Federation keeps other instances available to those who are interested, but at arm's reach.
A final reason that the reintegration is important in general besides federation, is that there is no development base remaining for our custom codebase here, it will be much more difficult to add features without being able to integrate changes to mainstream Lemmy.
honestly federation is a double edged sword, especially when lemmy has very limited user controls in place (from what i recall you have to completely trust the federating instance)
They've been including new moderation features in more recent releases, but yeah it still has a ways to go. I don't think the "other edge" of the sword would affect Hexbear too badly at first, since we would immediately be the most active instance (unless GZD fullly migrates over).
The occasional iFunny-esque watermarks aside, there have been no real attempts at marketing, so this doesn’t surprise me.
I’d agree that re-forking is important, but we should be taking advantage of access to paid advertising on other platforms while we have access.
There's been a ton of hostility toward gzd on this site, even people celebrating the quarantine in the bigger thread. Whether you agree with the criticisms of gzd or not, it makes sense for them to create their own board.
Plus if most of gzd ends up on lemmygrad hexbear may or may not remain more active.
I did a post shitting on a stupid r/gzd post right before the site got quarantined. Felt bad about it.
honestly don't feel bad, this is the definition of critical support
They really like some behaviors and opinions that aren't the like of the main moderation here, so I'd rather them having their space for their things; and when federation finally hits we can share things easier.
Besides being sectarian, I think they generally have a different stance on sex work/prostitution. Some people here might call those stances "anti sex-workers", which is surely arguable, but the point is, I don't want another shitshow with a shitton of banned people. I don't know shit about the topic besides "don't consume it and help the people".
Isn’t the whole point of comms to allow for different standards of moderation?
A commitment to let them moderate their own space would go a long way.
Eeh, not really. Right now we are so few that we aren't really divided into communities, besides some small cases, and none of them have contradictory rules or permissions. Besides the rules about posting things about the comm topic, you don't have a place where it's okay to have X take and another one where that take is wrong.
I think after the really unfortunate Vegan Circle Jerk debacle that finished off the "Founding Crises" we are taking a somewhat centralist approach to comm Self-determination
I think it's fine to have hexbear as a left unity space and lemmygrad as ML only, though I hope there's a lot of overlap like SLS and genzedong
I mentioned it in my application but the mods have to approve you before you can post
lmao Koa_lala basically took the lead on the UI redesign in the early days of this site.
Reddit is literally a fascist website regarding anything political. As socialists get pushed off entirely, our views will become increasingly "outsider" back to how it was in the 00's while all mainstream "normal and not scary and weird" spaces will continue to foster outright nationalism and the trend we are seeing now of rehabilitating fascists.
The supposed anti-fascist subs are supporting neo-nazis. All of the actual anti-fascist subs will be banned because these are our Nazis and supporting the side killing them is verging on an actual crime. The same tired propaganda tactics from the cold war are very clearly still useful.
Actually Reddit is left-leaning because I get in trouble when I say slurs
not even everywhere, many a lib were upset that some left subs had the slur filters
First they came for chapos,
but I didn't speak up cause I listen to no podcasts,then they came for antiwork
but I didn't speak up cause I am out of work anyhow,then they came for genzedong
and there was nowhere left to speak up against anything.surely the next subreddit that obtains class consciousness will spark the revolution
sls taken a neutral stance on the whole russia thing maybe thats why
"Mature" or not (certainly more reddit friendly attitude), SLS will too be carantined/banned sooner or later.
Probably, but it keeps on trucking as other subs go down despite being very vocally ML
It's stance is somewhat controversial, anyway lots of subs "keep on trucking".
it's as if the place that is made up of and caters to the gen zetters is going to be kinda immature lol
I don't care for GZ and think its a hub for crankery too frequently but this countdown started as soon as the invasion began since GZ is the only meaningful sub from which dissenting views on Russia and China were emanating (no matter the merit of particular views case by case).
Social media in general is going to generally crack down on dissenting views going forward both in an official capacity and unofgicially through social policing.
They won’t be happy until they are the only subreddit left and it’s just a theater full of neoliberals watching a blank screen
They'll be like the maga chuds on parler realizing what they actually liked on social media was getting mad at liberals. Centrist libs just like to feel ashamed for not being as full-throated as a progressive or a socialist but also like feeling smug that they're so much more "realistic" (for varying degrees of realism rooted in being supportive of a hegemonic imperialist wealth-extraction machine run by the moral equivalent of orphan tears).
Like a parakeet staring at a reflection of itself in its gilded cage. "I am not alone, I have this friend here..."
Bam evasion, they banned r CTH 2 even though it was a thing before CTH was banned
The intent of the ban is to shut down dissent. They will fricassee any subreddit which accumulates too many GZD refugees. They removed something like 100 CTH alts. GenZizek is a great name though lmao.
Redditors always just make shit up and smear banned subreddits after they are gone. I’ve heard so much absurd shit and rumors about CTH lol
I remember rumors of chapo hating jews and trans folk. Always went unquestioned.
Chapo was somehow too lib, too Tankie, too stupidpol reactionary, too idpol SJW. Truly a land of contradictions.
Spoiler, all leftist subs are going to get banned. Discord too, so get ready peeps. I wouldn't worry too much though, time online itself in this form and age is limited. Soon you'll have to figure out how offline works for a while, and maybe it'll even be safe.
RIP, one favorite way to start the day though, with some water and some quality shitposts. Now its just meh shitposts or serious time.
nah we need our own actual alt-tech like the chuds had parler or gab or whatever
this place is a good start
Sure long term, there's also Lemmygrad, hopefully the word got the GDZ enough I can browse there now, easier to post than reddit for sure. I'm so banned on reddit even vpns, using different devices etc doesn't save me anymore lol.
With the US' ridiculous non stop war drumming and such I wonder if there's a false flag internet down type scenario in the works, as in no internet for anyone.
Look nerd, if you just believe hard enough in Mazovian Thought, anything is possible.
The moral of the story is that leftists in normie spaces needs to have a lifeboat strategy fright from the beginning.
Probably being drowned in new accounts. We had that problem here because we were by far the largest Lemmy fork in terms of concurrent users
What is the purpose of this? Banning subreddits isn't going to make Ukraine "win" this war lol
information cough propaganda war, the US/NATO doesn't care if Ukraine survives or not, all they want is atrocity porn to paint Russia as pure evil. The MIC gets their big bad enemy, military budget will continue to increase to even more absurd levels, expansion of US military across the globe but especially around China.
But when Ukraine loses this, won't there be a dissonance from what was promised vs what happened? People just going "what the fuck was all that horseshit then?"
This makes me think that a great deal of people are operating with the psychological equivalent of a lobotomy
Americans have zero memory of being lied to. They also dont even care if they're lied to half of the time.
This makes me think that a great deal of people are operating with the psychological equivalent of a lobotomy
that's what you get when you channel multi-layered propaganda at a population from every angle in the information age. the ability to not only plant an idea in someone's head, but to convince them that it was their idea in the first place. when russia achieves their objectives in this war the western narrative is going to be "yeah but putler has egg on his face and had to commit atrocities to win" as though that has a material impact on the outcome
The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
Umberto Eco says it all. Russia is very weak, but if they win, it's because YOU failed them with your lack of support. OR just because of dastardly savage Russian sneakiness and cowardly tactics!
:debate-me-debate-me:
Most people aren't plugged into this stuff like us freaks, they get it ambiently. This means that in 6 months they don't remember any of it. Hell don't something like 40% of people still think saddam hussein did 911?
Most people in US have no idea who Soleimani is. Collectively memory holed in like a month.
Pipelines work and they know it. The chapo sub was radicalizing people and had a lot of visibility because it was part of a major social media site so it had to go. GZD was too (to a lesser degree imo), so I'm amazed this didn't happen sooner.
