• Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    "And this is why we need funding for more Barret 50 cal sniper rifles and 25mm Bushmaster Autocannons for our APCs."

  • OneBillionRubyWasps [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    Looks like body armor is getting more common in these things. I've heard it's best in that situation to target the attacker's pelvis instead. I don't know how true it is but it seems logical.

    • SaniFlush [any, any]
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      3 years ago

      “Body armor” could mean anything from a nylon air soft vest to some heavy mil surplus shit with ceramic chest plates, or even like, a bunch of welded together metal scraps like that one old outlaw had. In any case, they probably didn’t bother to armor their head or thighs, both of which would bleed out quickly if damaged.

        • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          Extra History is pretty lib but their series on Ned Kelly was excellent. The guy tried to live an honest life but kept getting called a criminal by the rich and powerful until one day he said "Fine, fuck it. I guess I am a criminal now" and proceeded to make every rich asshole in Australia dread his existence

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1WmidFwFzY&list=PLhyKYa0YJ_5B-ZwtgBs6p43JywAvN_TGl

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 years ago

        Level 4 plates that can reliably stop multiple rifle rounds cost less than 1k for a set.

        • spring_rabbit [she/her]
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          3 years ago

          1k? I got my level 4 plates for a little over a hundred, minus the carrier. Heavy and bulky and on sale, but certified level 4. Armor is cheap now, and I'm surprised we haven't seen it used in crime more.

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Realistically, hitting a specific small part of a person, with a pistol, at a distance, while that person is shooting at you, is beyond most people.

      • kristina [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        yeah shooting a pistol at distance is pretty rough. 60 feet if youre good and prepared, though from what i've seen 30 feet is what most people can do in a high stress situation which is very close honestly

    • Parent [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Reminds me of the North Hollywood shootout from 90's. Two guys decked out in armor and got armor piercing rounds got in a crazy shootout with cops. Here's a documentary if anyone feels like blowing 20 mintues.

      • Quimby [any, any]
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        3 years ago

        why is this documentary so funny tho?

        it's almost like a parody of American television programming.

        also, how many billions of dollars do you reckon the police milked out of this shit?

        edit: "there were an average of 3 armed bank robberies a day in Los Angeles". there's no way that's true, right??

        • Parent [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah the 3 armed bank robberies does sound like a lot. They were saying that back then they didn't carry assault rifles or anything. Nowadays I'm pretty sure they got one in every car.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Watching cops go from pistol, to pistol and six mags, to assault rifle in the car, to assault rifle in every single interaction was bizarre. I remember taunting National Guard dorks in the airport after 9/11 bc they were issued rifles but no ammo, and now twenty years later every hog in the country has an assault rifle and goes on SWAT LARPs twice a year.

        • NPa [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          "It's friday, TGIF for employees at a bank in North Hollywood. But when the horror begins, the end of their work-week will become frozen in time. Two men, DEMONS as the police call them, approach a bank"

          who the fuck wrote this script :data-laughing:

        • Parent [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Yeah the documentary covers that. They took barbituates to make themselves calm so they wouldn't panic and make bad decisions. They synchronized their watches to 8 minutes because they calculated that's how long it'd take cops to get there. But they miscalculated and it only took 2-3 minutes for cops to surround the building.

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Thousands of rounds fired, but the only people who died were the two bank robbers. But that didn't stop the piggies from using it to justify massive militarization for decades afterward.

    • Foolio [any]
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      3 years ago

      They're trying to ban you from buying armored vests and helmets to wear at protests hth.

    • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      makes sense, your shots after the first would likely raise your barrel anyways. body armor really covers the ribcage area and a little lower, gut shots and lower i assume are not as fatal as the ribcage.

    • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      I mean there are kevlar backpacks. This shooter was what? 18? Of course he'd have some familiarity with wearing body armor on a school campus.

      What a horrible country this is.

  • Dewot656 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    To be clear, it has since come out that the shooter wasn't actually wearing body armor. If the initial confrontation with the police had involved them actually detaining him, there would only be one adult victim, the shooter's grandmother. The one fucking time it is permissible for a cop to actually draw and use a gun, they decide to sacrifice the lives of over a dozen children and their teachers because they are fucking rat bastard cowards that don't have the integrity of their own slimy steak and donut shits.

    • CTHlurker [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Cops typically don't like firing guns at people who might conceivably fire back. It's like rule number one that they always have to survive every interaction, and that includes knowing when to retreat / "tactically observing and assessing the situation"

    • Foolio [any]
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      3 years ago

      They're lying about body armor because they want to ban it along with a gun control push. That's it, it's all agenda driven.

    • Sickos [they/them, it/its]
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      3 years ago

      I have no doubt that they had a officer in the school with a gun. There's another post around here that the school system has dedicated officers.

  • happybadger [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    The Associated Press news agency reports that a US Border Patrol official who was nearby when the shooting began rushed into the school and shot and killed the gunman, who was behind a barricade.

    Border Patrol is a federal agency that guards US ports of entry. Uvalde, which is fewer than 80 miles from the border with Mexico, is home to a Border Patrol station.

    Two border agents were reportedly shot in an exchange with the gunman. One agent was shot in the head, officials say, adding that both were now in a stable condition in hospital.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61573377

    The regular pigs didn't even kill him in the end. It was the concentration camp pigs and he still shot two of them.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      The chuds are gonna say you supported and keep supporting BLM and defunding the pigs no matter what you do, so literally the only reason to do this is if you want it. They want it.