• Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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    7 months ago

    Okay but it’s illegal for him to distribute counterfeit money knowingly isn’t it

    • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      Oh yeah, this guy is committing a serious federal offense and could very easily be put in prison if the authorities decided to prosecute him. Whether that would actually happen depends on how connected he is to powerful people, of course, but there is zero ambiguity about the legality here.

      • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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        7 months ago

        Yeah. It is really infuriating that that’s how it works. Makes me wish I had the free time and drive to become a vigilante.

        • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          That's the thing, isn't it? If someone shot this dude it would just feed into his narrative even more and give people like him more power. Only way to actually make a difference is to get organized with enough people to carry out coherent actions (which would definitely be a lot less violent, at least initially, than shooting ghouls like this guy).

          • Deadend [he/him]
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            7 months ago

            Counter-point - more bullets for more people like him punished-bernie

            • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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              7 months ago

              inshallah-script

              That's what you need organization for, so that when things get real (which is almost always provoked by the bourgeois side of things) you have more people ready to keep the thing going. Spontaneous and individualistic movements fade out just as easily as they come into existence.

      • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        I'm pretty sure this is still illegal, he's attempting to put the money into circulation by giving people the false impression that it is real legal tender.

        Like hypothetically if you're so charismatic that you manage to convince a bank teller that a piece of printer paper you wrote "Gay Sex" on with a crayon is actual legal tender I still think that counts as counterfeiting, because you're still putting false currency into circulation.

        • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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          7 months ago

          the problem is its a rich guy allegedly doing this to homeless people

          The least likely to be treated fairly under the law of this country scenario I can think of other than if it was 1820 and he was doing this to actual slaves

          • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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            7 months ago

            Oh I doubt he'd ever see the inside of a jail cell over this.

            However, if enough people reported him for this it maybe enough for the Dept. of the Treasury to send him a notice or something which would probably scare him into not doing it anymore.

            • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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              7 months ago

              the Dept. of the Treasury to send him a notice or something which would probably scare him into not doing it anymore.

              What'll likely happen is that he'll claim he's being censored by the "woke homeless loving radical liberal leftists" or something

      • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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        7 months ago

        Okay. But surely if it’s illegal for you to attempt to use it as legal tender it must be illegal to give it to people under that pretence, no?

        • D61 [any]
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          7 months ago

          I bet I bet I bet....

          Because its just being given to another person but no given to a cashier to pay for something, its "not illegal"

          The internet says... I'm wrong... hooray!

          https://abovethelaw.com/2024/05/admit-counterfeit-bills-homeless/

          But if we take him at his word, he is at the very least in breach of 18 U.S. Code § 472:

          Whoever, with intent to defraud, passes, utters, publishes, or sells, or attempts to pass, utter, publish, or sell, or with like intent brings into the United States or keeps in possession or conceals any falsely made, forged, counterfeited, or altered obligation or other security of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both.

          Of note, the unsuspecting homeless people he’d ensnare in this scheme would lack the requisite intent to defraud, meaning the only participant in the hypothetical transaction actually committing any crime is McEntee himself.

          That said, while a homeless person duped by a stunt like this would not commit a federal crime if they tried to pass a bill they believed to be genuine, that doesn’t mean they couldn’t be arrested for the attempt. Or worse, given that George Floyd was stopped for attempting to spend a counterfeit bill when he the police killed him.

          • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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            7 months ago

            that doesn’t mean they couldn’t be arrested for the attempt. Or worse, given that George Floyd was stopped for attempting to spend a counterfeit bill when he the police killed him.

            precisely

            demonic country

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        7 months ago

        If the American legal system is remotely sane (which is a big if) then the important question is the intent. If you use the prop money as a prop it is not a crime but if you pass it on, deceiving people to think it is real money then you've crossed the line.

    • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      The thing about the American legal system is that it runs on Whose Line Is It Anyway? rules: everything's made up and the laws don't matter. What happened doesn't matter as long as the audience likes you. And the audience is rich people.

    • drowns [he/him]
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      7 months ago

      It's probably just vice signaling. He would be terrified to actually approach a homeless person.

  • spacecadet [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    There was a thread asking about atomization of society and one symptom is shit like this, this comical evil can really only occur in an atomized society with such distance from others as human beings.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    So Johnny McEntee just confessed to committing a felony?

  • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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    7 months ago

    wonder if soon we'll be able to hack these freaks "smart" cars and have them drive into rivers and shit, ghouls love bazinga toys

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      7 months ago

      alphabet agencies already did this to kill Michael Hastings

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          7 months ago

          It's not like openly confirmed, but he died in a solo traffic accident where his car rapidly accelerated into a tree.

          The surface story is that he was doing meth or something, but 2013 is around the time that they started being able to digitally control accelerators through wireless connections, so it's not impossible that he was just one of the first they tested it on.

          His reporting was highly critical of the Alphabet agencies and the surveillance state. Even got a general to step down after his reporting, so he was definitely not liked by the apparatus.

          • Leon_Frotsky [she/her]
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            7 months ago

            i looked it up because i was curious and the first article was a Politico article smearing the Huffington Post for even suggesting it (despite Politico not having any counter evidence) so I'm immediately convinced its real 👁️

    • tactical_trans_karen [she/her, comrade/them]
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      7 months ago

      Hey, Uncle Ho and the gang started with targeted hits... While taking out individuals is just cutting the head off a hydra, it's one less ghoul. Not sure if it creates an advantage or not and it is different circumstances than Vietnam. I sure wouldn't shed a tear about it. Problem is, if people started getting bumped off, there would have to be some strategies about who. So, that opens up the likelihood of Fed infiltration. It would have to be extremely offline, that's for sure.

  • buh [she/her]
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    7 months ago

    I hope someone kneels on his neck for 9 minutes

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    What shit culture do we have where malignant narcissism is seen as a badge of honor and not a sign of someone being a complete monster?

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    7 months ago

    I hope he gets jumped by the hooligans from A Clockwork Orange and they crack his head open like a big stupid egg

  • AOCapitulator [they/them, she/her]
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    7 months ago

    but surely homeless people only use money to buy illegal drugs right?

    This would only work if they tried to use it for something like, I dunno, food, medicine, or shelter!