Please don't look for posts from /u/hardtimes without a severe CW for scat and who knows what else at this point.
I think it's worth considering what kind of damage trolls, wreckers, and edgelords in general can do with such images in the future. @Frank@hexbear.net may have been right in that struggle session today; such open image posting may be a mistake.
Our raiders have no class, just baby brained shock trolling? Low effort and cringe
They clearly aren’t even familiar with the site. If they were, they would have posted something really enraging like pictures of cats running around outdoors or pics of Xi hanging out with Henry Kissinger.
oh no ive never seen a porn b4
oh it got removed by the mods in like 2 mins?
not defending the wrecker I just think it's humorous that they go with porn
Inline images temporarily disabled
edit: make sure to clear your cache if they still pop up
you can't spam the screen with giant yakuza memes that take up the entire screen anymore
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This is kinda what I meant about how the emotes work now.
*removed externally hosted image*
At least it only works with local images, that way we can purge the images from the database and break all the comments at once instead of having to hunt down the comments
Edit: they fixed it!
Thank you! I'm sorry this created extra work for y'all right after the transition.
Any account could also do this with posts too though.
I continue to not think it's an issue, just ban them. Perhaps as a precautionary measure comments could be collapsed if reported.
The site should categorically not overreact to attackers like this or it will see other forms of attack aiming to get the site to become more and more isolated/changed from the traditional Lemmy.
EDIT: Simple solution is the same solution that worked for forums for decades before reddit took over. Require new accounts to reach a certain post count first before getting image posting, and rate limit their posting.
The site should categorically not overreact to attackers like this or it will see other forms of attack aiming to get the site to become more and more isolated/changed from the traditional Lemmy.
it's not a reaction if i never wanted inline images in comments and thought they were bad before any wrecking attempts
slack let's you collapse them by default, I think such a user setting would be appropriate for lemmy comments.
a barely acceptable compromise if and only if they start collapsed by default
undefined> The site should categorically not overreact to attackers like this or it will see other forms of attack aiming to get the site to become more and more isolated/changed from the traditional Lemmy.
this goes for so much stuff lol, namely:
- federation
- beehaw
- wreckers in general
- reddit shit
- etc
I continue to not think it's an issue, just ban them.
I don't want to have nightmares for weeks because I opened a post with a shock image before the mods could get it, thank you very much.
There is absolutely nothing stopping that from happening with posts, and was nothing stopping it happening previously with posts for 3 years. Nothing about posts has changed?
Simple solution is the same solution that worked for forums for decades before reddit took over. Require new accounts to reach a certain post count first before getting image posting, and rate limit their posting.
At the very least, we should require this along with a threshold of points mentioned in other posts. Images should also be locked to a certain size and at the very least an option to auto-hide them should be added.
I agree with sizelocking. Set a maximum width using css and they'll get resized to it without proportions being busted.
The main problem in my opinion is that the gifs were getting turned into full post-width videos that I think everyone will agree was absurdly large. The rest seemed fine. But now that people have been annoyed by the post-width videos this troll has decided to be disgusting in order to get their way. It's almost certainly an existing member that wants the feature removed rather than any external attacker and they can fuck right off with that behaviour imo.
Any account could also do this with posts too though.
sure, but the images in posts are collapsed by default and you don't get slammed with them as you're browsing comments... besides, they're much smaller>>
Yeah, I'm siding towards this being an overreaction although I don't care enough either way. People can already abuse their avatar and banner. Like, nothing stopped people from posting scat in old Hexbear.
I'm siding towards this being an overreaction
Are you unfamiliar with shock images as a means of attack? There's some truly horrific stuff out there that I'm trying not to picture in my mind while writing this but that's not working very well so I'm leaving this thread.
And my point is that those shock images can be someone's avatar and banner or even just some post. Nothing's stopping someone from posting snuff in /c/videos.
You have a good point with the posts already being vulnerable to this, the only difference though is comments are 1) much more numerous and 2) much more likely for a mod to not notice. The nature of the problem is the same as we had before, but the commenting issue is just a much more severe and difficult to deal with version of it.
Furthermore you get a notification if someone comments on your post or replies.
I got hit with it directly but it’s not like I haven’t seen gross porn before, so I just reported and blocked.
On the topic of online images though I still think it’s a potentially cool and useful feature, but needs some guardrails to prevent abuse. Maybe have them automatically show up as a spoiler, have size limits, limits on have many images in one post, and I don’t know what else. Also maybe limit the feature to accounts over a certain age or to Hexbear Gold™ subscribers.
Anyways, I realize the site devs are probably busy with everything else and can’t address it right away so totally understandable to just disable them completely.
I'm getting there fast!
Or...as fast as time passes.....
Also maybe limit the feature to accounts over a certain age or to Hexbear Gold™ subscribers.
I've ran into several wreckers who kept their account more or less inactive for 2 years before going mask off, i think post count would be a way better limitation.
User is already purged. We love our beautiful mods, don't we folks?
I better
until that particular wrecker creep gets tired of making new alts, and hopefully the Hexbear team decides that open ended image posting is a bad idea and prevents it before this escalates further and everyone has whatever edgelords get off to on their screens. 
we already have open ended image posting tbf. but inline in comments presents some new challenges. They are disabled until the moderation team can decide how best to handle them.
Admin calls for a complete shutdown of inline images on Hexbear until the moderation team can figure out what the hell is going on.
Honestly, somewhat restricted signups are pretty much always a good idea. Reduces bot spam (which we actually have had in the past) and stifles (or at least slows) wreckers
I think so too, I know a lot of people go "it harms growth!!!!" but tbh if you're so put off by having to write like 3 sentences why you should be able to use the site I dont want you here anyways
Like, what growth? Site's fine. We don't need to be as big as reddit
exactly, from my understanding hexbear hasn't grown that much the last couple years anyways
Most of our account growth is just the same posters making alts, and wreckers that we've banned. I wonder what the actual number of unbanned user accounts is.
honestly I only even found out about this site like 6 months ago because of the second thought ama, and only made an account a month ago, there's almost 0 advertising of it across the internet I'm not surprised there hasn't been growth (not a bad thing)
We have a cozy little thing going
We've tried a few times to expand the community but it never really ends very well - like when we invited /r/vegancirclejerk refugees and ended up banning almost all of them in a week for circlejerking too much.we were having such bad site performance issues shortly before that AMA that we barely promoted it out of concern on the part of some admins it might crash the site
well, welcome to the site. Just don't upload poop pics or become an unhinged liberal or something lol
I thinks it's a good compromise between the exposure we get from federation which will drive growth, against writing three sentences to get in.
The most predictable thing happens
Also, we still need some auto filter of upload images and cool down timer for image upload
If Hexbear is anything like the upstream, there should be admin settings for rate limiting image posting. An aurofilter is a much more difficult task.
With everyone and their grandma making a dream.ai clone, is it really still that difficult? Especially for a forum with, what? At most 200 images uploaded per day?
i had to scroll through all of it to click the report button as well, which seems like a flaw
i just hope we can make images smaller and require prior activity, rather than disabling them entirely
i had to scroll through all of it to click the report button as well, which seems like a flaw
I had the same issue
I hope that such images get removed from the site before some
wrecker decides to dump their kiddie creeping stash onto the site. 
It could even become actual
antics if too many nazis and other creeps get wise to what they could do with instantly viewable images.I don’t see the need for an application, just have a minimum point value, that’s how it is for posting and PMing. Maybe 200 points or a month old account idk, I highly doubt a wrecker is gonna put that much work in when they could just make a post with gore or whatever instead, which only requires like 10 or something points I think
When you try to make a new post as a new user a box in the corner of the screen tells you “minimum point value x required to post” or something
True there's no sure way of knowing unless you add them up, I wish it showed on our profiles. An alternative might be, say, account must be 30 days old and/or 50 comments minimum, because that's something that does show on your profile
No application to make an account, but every feature you want to use you need to do a 12 page essay about why Thomas Sankara is cool.
Counter point: wreckers wouldn't have been smart enough to have thought of that if y'all hadn't kept bringing up that it could be a problem.
It was brought up because it's been an issue on every forum that allows image posting, forever, going back to probably BBS systems. There are a huge number of shock images I can name that most extremely online millennials will remember, and if you could see their faces you'd see the visible cringe because a lot of them are awful.
Internet trolls have been abusing embedded images ever since they became a thing.
man I dunno, I'm not a particularly smart person but that's what instantly came to mind as soon as I saw it
This happened a few days ago on lemmy. Same kind of stuff I think
No, if its the user I'm assuming it is (based on the description) then they've been doing it on Lemmy for years.
Counter point: wreckers wouldn't have been smart enough to have thought of that
4chan has existed for 20 years, every imaginable form of trolling has already been thought of
STEP AWAY FROM THE SCAT PORN, CITIZEN
thats me!
but I find site lore like this so interesting lol
