https://twitter.com/JonahFurman/status/1448483622940446722?t=F-T9_xCRANKmmGJScdNTTg&s=19
LMAO, basically "bruh they gonna make me weld 24/7 or I'm getting fired, but I don't know what the fuck is a welding machine"
Looking forward for welding spatter in a brand new 900k US$ equipment
Yeah this is honestly hilarious, just in how feeble this attempt is and how obviously doomed to failure it is. Not the part where workers are getting fucked.
And yeah as someone who has done a handful of tack welds and nothing more, that's definitely a skilled job and just LMAO
I remember watching mini-documentals in the farming TV channel about JD factories in other countries and they all went "oh yeah the most of the job is done by temporary workers cuz they weld in the winter and work at their farms in the summer"
Hmm yeah, nothing about them being fucked over by flexibilization, absolutely zero of that going on. they just happen to like not having permanent jobs benefits despite being re-hired every winter.
Yeah, agriculture-only in places with only one crop per year leaves a lot of free time. In the other hand, livestock+double crops is a fuck.
They just need to follow a welders favourite trick: "I'll just grind it later."
*Looking at the worst case of bubblegum weld known to mankind *
"Nah, she's good. You can barely tell."
"These axles are supposed to shake when spinning, right?"
"The manual doesn't say anything against it, so"
I think "day in the life" should be mandatory on a recurring basis for anyone in charge of anyone else.
Though in my experience, when bosses fail those, they do a bush Mission Accomplished thing and just gaslight you like they totally did it and it wasn't a spectacular failure.
Thing is that process only taking a day would require the boss to be trained up enough for that process to only last a single day, which means it would have to happen pretty often. Personally, I like to get in the trenches for at least an hour a day and if shit hits the fan you better believe I’m in there. Managers who don’t do the work they manage are incompetent. Period.
Cultural revolution but it’s Tim Apple working on an iPhone assembly line
I would get fired for bringing it up every day. You can't self-own like that and just forget about it lmao
Lol he actively had a chance for empathy or solidarity and was just like nah.
candy ass engineers and white collar people working 12 hour shifts 6 days a week manufacturing with machinery
LMFAO
This is what I would come up with if I were trying to actively sabotage a manufacturing operation
Seriously, that's forcing your scabs to do praxis. How can Deere not see that's even more of a self-own?
CW: Examples of some modern Haas lathe warning labels
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damn someone needs to make a goregrind album based on these posters
"Licking Thee Vomitrocious Wounds of The Putrescent Lathe"
"Inhaling The Noxious Fumes as My Eyes Belch Out Of My Asshole"
two things
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Don't cross picket lines
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People with a normal work week just got told that they were gonna be moved to a 12 hour shift 6 days a week. Deere should have two fucking strikes to worry about.
Does it count as scabbing of you get in contact with the union organizers and try to agitate for a slowdown amongst the scabs?
Nope, that's a valid striking tactic. Honestly it's better to have sympathizers running sabotage in scab operations because then you know exactly what they're able to do and can do more damage from the inside, or grow the ranks of the strike by flipping scabs.
Yeah, they will definitely not be able to maintain any level of production with unskilled white collar workers.
Honestly those guys are probably scared as hell to be operating big lethal machines without any licenses. Wouldn't be surprised if they decide to walk after a few days and a close call or two.
unskilled white collar workers.
:sicko-yes: We need to start pushing this (no offense to white collar comrades just as ironic pushback against the whole "skilled labor" trope).
Unions then: Here's a gun, if your boss doesn't cede to your demands shoot them and burn down their house
Unions now: Please give us health insurance and let us have sick pay.
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I think I'm ok with it here only because it's hilariously and obviously doomed to fail. Having a computer engineer weld isn't going to work, and thus, won't succeed in breaking the strike. If anything, it reinforces the value of the welders. So yeah, sure, I'll fail to weld something for you. How many things would you like me to not weld today?
"How many things would you like me to not weld today"
See, if you fuck up badly enough, you WILL weld it to the point where it can't be sold nor redone correctly. So chin-up comrade. With the right attitude, you can actually do worse than nothing!
"Ah damn my bony keyboard arms have burnt a hole through this axle half an inch out of minimum tolerance, what a shame. Well, practice makes perfect; give me another one!"
I fear not the man who has failed 10,000 welds once, but I fear the man who has failed one weld 10,000 times
-Bruce Lee
The idea of trying to weld a hole in something is killing me :michael-laugh:
I was thinking of being so bad at welding that I manage to just melt a hole through the base material, which sounds about up my alley. Now that I think about it, I don't even know if a welder would be capable of doing that lmao
People definitely cut things with torches, but I don't think that's called welding. I've never seen it in manufacturing, but I suppose it is a good way to permanently take things apart.
I wish my irl bosses were this inspiring. Do you have any idea how much I'd look forward to work if it meant coming in everyday to fuck around and ruin some corporation?
Not only is it doomed to fail, but it's very likely this will tank morale and cause a significant number of those workers to leave permanently, not just go on strike. So the damage to the company will be long term, no matter how the strike itself is resolved.
Technically sure, but the person is already voicing their support for the strike and predicting the effort to break it to fail. They are also signaling to the workers to hold strong because the 'scabs' in this case don't really know what they're doing.
He's a class traitor, just like when aristocrats become revolutionaries. Big support to him, but he and the other people who are scabbing aren't "workers", their class interest directly contradicts that of the striking workers.
Babe wake up, it's time for your daily "office workers are not proletarians" take on hexbear!
Oh man, somebody should've told me I own my means of production, I would've refactored it to feed people or help do urban planning or something useful instead of WebShit:tm:
Love when the bourgeoisie are people who make a high salary for their labor. Not defending gross overcompensation of office work but, yea...
It isn't though, if anything they are interested in the workers' demands being met, allowing them to go back to the office, they're not getting a bonus for doing a job they aren't even trained for and they're being forced into longer hours under threat of termination.
The thing is they are actually more replaceable than those factory workers even if (and partly because) they get payed more.
Damn management is making itself work 12 hour shifts 6 times a week? Pretty incredible if you ask me
"white collar workers aren't proletarians but also blue collar workers are stupid and lazy"
fuck off
That would make them internal labor aristocracy, still workers though, just with unaligned interests
Love to understand salary workers as somehow different from hourly workers even though both earn a wage
This type of arrangement is incredibly common for industrial companies. No one ever hires scabs, they just force the office people to work these insane shifts to cover. This is part of the reason I hammer home the idea that white collar professionals are not "working class". Workers on the shop floor understand this too - those friendly engineers at your DSA meeting are MANAGEMENT to the hard hats.
You're seeing actual management pit two groups of workers against each other and you point at one of them and exclaim "not real workers!"
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those friendly engineers at your DSA meeting are MANAGEMENT to the hard hats.
Frankly, this sounds like something that a chud would say to sow division.
This playbook has been run for over 100 years. One of the more blatant examples was racist ass white unions not letting black people join and then going full :shocked-pikachu: when black folks ended up as scabs. The idea that a junior dev is “management” and therefore “not a worker” because they work in an office is straight up Pinkerton propaganda. Literally, union busters will insert people onto the floor to talk shit about the office people and vice-versa.
Do you own the means of production? Or is your income dependent upon showing up and performing a job of some kind? Congratulations, you're a worker. And yes, coordinating people and resources is a job.
Pay and prestige differences between white collar and blue collar workers are just there to obfuscate their shared class interest. Don't buy into the capitalist's propaganda here.
This is part of the reason I hammer home the idea that white collar professionals are not “working class”.
I disagree re my reply to this same comment. They may be more likely to turn class traitor but they are absolutely still working class.
They're paid to be scabs. That's literally why John Deere hires engineers to do sbitnwhen they could get someone without a degree to do "plant engineering" or maintenance much cheaper.
The people that the Labor Notes guy got texts from I guarantee are some 25 year olds who haven't quite figured out what their role is. The older, more experienced PMCs know the score.
I'm basically in the same boat as you brother. I never intend to doom people. I just like to share a perspective that I rarely see represented in leftist discourse.
I don't watch TV, this is my life lmfao. 22 year old kids make as much money for a 40 hour work week as people at the very top of the hourly pay scale, in jobs that take 20+ years seniority.
No one ever hires scabs, they just force the office people to work these insane shifts to cover.
Maybe it depends on the industry or workplace, but this would be unthinkable at every place I've worked at. Throwing untrained salaried workers at tasks they have no experience with is both doomed to fail and will make the problem worse by forcing those workers to start looking elsewhere.
They aren't "untrained". They don't pull accountants or anything like that to do skilled tasks. They ask engineers who work in maintenance, or do process design or machinery upgrades. People who know how the shit sorta works but don't run it all day long normally.
Process engineers or some others might be able to replicate tasks for processes or equipment they’re familiar with, but there are likely far fewer people in engineering roles who could do that than there are production line workers. Even then, knowing how a process or piece of machinery works certainly isn’t a guarantee that they can perform certain tasks to level of quality or speed of a line worker who’s been doing it for years.
If you're so incompetent that your mere presence is an obstacle to profit, then yes!
Slow-walk the work and fuck it up as much as is plausible. Make it more costly than shutting down.
What if this is just a delay tactic? Put some randos in front of the machines, below smoke everywhere and maybe that’s an extra few weeks that the strikers have to strike for. Maybe it’s not meant to succeed, just slow failure as a means of negotiating better.
I think watching a bunch of useless and unsellable merch thanks to incompetence get produced will only embolden strikes and cost the company more money.
This is absolutely an, "I'M NOT OWNED, I'M NOT OWNED" moment.
If it’s doomed to failure, this is probably the case. Let’s hope it’s doomed to failure.
Anyone who crosses the line is a scab, and I think we all agree on what we think about scabs. That said, the company is trying to break a strike by putting a bunch of engineers and managers to work on the shop floor and humiliating them. They will only prove how valuable those workers were in the first place.
These are the brainiacs who decide just because it's theoretically possible you should hold a +/- 0.00005 inch diameter on a gearshaft coated in super-hard chrome and maintain a surface finish between 4 and 8 microinches root mean square. Even tossing the whole labor struggle aside, I'd just love to see them try.
The take here should be to slow-walk this work and do the shittiest job you can without getting fired.
You're not going to convince enough unorganized PMC types to spontaneously organize and not cross the picket line. You'd need to have workers organized and committed before that sort of action would work. What could work -- and what they're perfectly set up for, because this is terrible for morale and they're untrained -- is slow-walking and monkeywrenching. That might create an even bigger headache than a cold shutdown.
The best part is that it doesn't take overt organization to do, and it will spread pretty naturally. If a couple people check out but still show up and get paid, more will catch on.
So... I guess the jobs they were actually doing were pointless and generated no value?
The whole thing could be shut down EASY if they they all told management to fuck off
I imagine there's some kind of carrot/stick thing between upper management and engineers. Probably with a healthy amount of bullshit to lubricate their involvement.
I doubt the engineers and the plant workers have any real contract with one another either.
Hopefully those scabs test the machines by falling in. Sabotaging a combine with your body almost makes up for being a class traitor.
Day 1: "We're prepping for an exhausting schedule of manual labor"
Day 5: "This sucks and I hate it"
Day 10: "Fuck this job, I can do better"
Day 20: "The engineers and managers are joining the union"
Lol my cousin is probably one of thise strikebreakers and i hope he hates every minute of it. Racist garbage.
Someone with a Twitter account should introduce this guy to Sabo-Tabby, otherwise they'll stay a class traitor.
