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"Media Time Cube" lmao

  • SpookyGenderCommunist [they/them, she/her]
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    6 months ago

    Rev Left Radio being called "Misleading" is so fucking bonkers to me.

    Breht is such a thoughtful and genuine guy. And the show has so many guests on with differing perspectives. Like, yeah ok, some of those guests might say things one disagrees with, are debated within a given field, or are otherwise occasionally incorrect. But the ethos of that show is about getting the listener to know how to think, and thoughtfully approach things, from a broad left perspective. It's not just feeding you normative claims and calling it a day.

    Anyway, go listen to RevLeft, Breht is such a gift

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      6 months ago

      This is just a "supports author's worldview" chart. Peak liberal "reputable sources" ideology

    • TankieTanuki [he/him]
      hexagon
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      6 months ago

      Ad Fontes never analyzed or listened to the show. They noticed that it was "far-left" (it's in the name!). And far-left = biased = misleading/unfactual, by definition. It's that simple.

      • Parent [none/use name]
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        6 months ago

        What is Ad Fontes and how did they even know about RevLeft? I feel like RevLeft is pretty off the radar.

        • VILenin [he/him]M
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          6 months ago

          Probably just searched "radical leftist podcast" and randomly assigned the list into the evil tankie zone.

      • HexBroke
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        5 months ago

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    • Dessa [she/her]
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      6 months ago

      Rev Left: "Marx said this: [Reads accurate quote.]"

      Ad Fontes: "No he didn't"

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Breht is fine, thoughtful, ok, but he comes across as condescending 80% of the time, and I find that really off putting.

    • very_poggers_gay [they/them]
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      6 months ago

      If you zoom in reaaaaally close and enhance you can just barely make out the bottom corner of 72T's avatar crush

  • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Lmao at Bill Maher being remotely left. This chart is so lib it might as well be a Harry Potter reference

    • Florn [they/them]
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      6 months ago

      It treats fucking NPR as definitionally trustworthy and unbiased

      • AernaLingus [any]
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        6 months ago

        When you're a lib, NPR seems like the gospel truth and you feel very smug about listening to it. Before I had fully understood and rejected liberalism (voted for Stein in 2012 out of disgust with Obama, but still had a ways to go), I spent a good few years listening to Morning Edition, All Things Considered, and Wait! Wait! Don't Tell Me (their weekly news quiz) religiously. The concept of a news quiz is incredibly enticing to libs--my lib mom loves doing the NYT news quiz every week to test "how much she knows" (i.e. how much propaganda + useless trivia she's been fed), and I felt the same way about being able to answer questions in WWDTM. And as for the morning and afternoon news programs, they cover a wide variety of (uncontroversial) topics and are Fair and Balanced™ (i.e. they have center-right and far-right guests) which makes you feel worldly and broad-minded.

        But as the 2016 presidential campaign dragged on I started to see just how ridiculous their coverage of Bernie was--outright mocking him and his supporters, pretty much, which seemed at odds with their supposedly neutral editorial position. I think the final straw for me was in the early days of the Trump Administration, when they brought on a cavalcade of cartoonishly evil goons from the Trump Administration to lie through their teeth, which the reporters would barely push back on (because that would be partisan!); I remember their "interview" (more of a press release) of Sebastian Gorka right after the Muslim travel ban being particularly shameful. But again, I was already on the path to the left. If you're a comfortable lib, the actual policies don't matter--the calm, authoritative voices of the NPR hosts and their unwavering civility in the face of pure evil soothes your mind, and instead of worrying your head about "issues" you just collect "facts" about the events of the week so you can stay "informed", although since you have no actual political goals there is seemingly no purpose to this other than appearing smart to other libs when you go to brunch.

        • Dessa [she/her]
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          6 months ago

          Wait Wait Don't Tell Me is my guilty pleasure.

        • Speaker [e/em/eir]
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          6 months ago

          Some Things Gestured At doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.

      • NPa [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Getting your news from NPR is like getting your news from those soothing YouTube videos of rainfall and white noise

  • adultswim_antifa [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    Citations needed is where NPR News hour sits. It's centrist, even totally apolitical (just balls and strikes), and extremely fact based and unbiased. If you think it's left wing it's because you're a nazi shit head liar like everyone else in this fucked wasteland we call society and that's just an unbiased fact.

    • TRexBear
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      6 months ago

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    • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      Literally in their latest episode they just dropped the phrase "our listeners are not Maoists who believe the American state should be destroyed" and I was like I-was-saying . They're angry, righteous nebulous leftists, which is fine given what they do.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    The lie they're trying to tell doesn't even require it to be boomerang shaped, they could fill in the bottom center with trashy tabloid stuff and make it more believable, while still appealing to their audience's biases.

    But they're so high on their own supply that they can't take that easy win, so they ranked Joe Rogan as less misleading than revleft.

    • Parsani [love/loves, comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      so they ranked Joe Rogan as less misleading than revleft.

      Truly wild.

      Rev Left: "This week we have an author talking about their book"

      Rogan: "Jamie, pull up that video of those two aliens fucking"

      • VILenin [he/him]M
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        6 months ago

        Well, since this is just a preference chart compiled by the author, it makes it pretty clear what their politics are.

    • VILenin [he/him]M
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      6 months ago

      They obviously came up with the boomerang shape before they started gathering a list of podcasts. They wouldn’t dare critique any establishment-affirming media no matter how trashy lest it taint the holy aura of the righteous center.

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    6 months ago

    Imagine thinking Joe Rogan has more media value than Rev Left holy moly

    • Parent [none/use name]
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      6 months ago

      Lol Revleft often has on professors from accredited universities as guests. Rogan has on former WWE wrestlers and comedians.

      • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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        6 months ago

        Lol Revleft often has on professors from accredited universities as guests. Rogan has on former WWE wrestlers and comedians.

        up-yours-woke-moralists Am I not a professor, you woke moralist?!?!?!

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          6 months ago

          Not since he resigned rather than go through mandated "stop being such an asshole you're making us look bad" training.

  • dead [he/him]
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    6 months ago

    I'm a surprised that Virgil is still in the Bad Faith logo. I had to look it up and he's still in the logo on the official site as well. The last episode that Virgil was on was Episode 78 in June 2021. Brie just released episode 375 this week and Virgil is still in the cover. Why is she holding on to this?

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      At this point I just assume it's a running gag, because people have to have asked her about it

    • Moonworm [any]
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      6 months ago

      Either he's getting residuals and there's a contract that's ambiguous about the branding in the case of his disappearing from public life, or she just can't be assed to change it.

      • NPa [he/him]
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        6 months ago

        Brie: "hey Virgil why do you have a clause about getting residuals even in the case of... 'doing a Polanski'? What does that even mean?"

        Virgil: [disappears in a cloud of vape smoke]

    • blobjim [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      The ChapoTrapHouse podcast description on Apple Podcasts still lists him.

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    6 months ago

    The hyperpartisan left is when you apply critical analysis to media and back it up with extensive citations.

    • Dessa [she/her]
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      6 months ago

      No, they don't cite things. They need citations. It's right there in the name

  • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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    6 months ago

    Never trust anyone who makes graphs. Anyone who has made a graph outside of work or school is a counter revolutionary

    • carpoftruth [any, any]
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      6 months ago

      How much of a lib you are 📈📈📈

      My patience for people who are not Data Driven 📉📉📉

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      What if I made graphs to figure out the odds of an opposed roll in an RPG, but I did it during work hours?

      EDIT: Wait graph is probably a strong word, it was just an Excel tab, didn't even use pivot tables.

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        6 months ago

        Tables are fine. It's when bars and lines start coming into play we've got problems.

    • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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      6 months ago

      Really fuckin hilarious that four years on she still hasn't removed him from the banner

  • Roonerino
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    2 months ago

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  • Tachanka [comrade/them]
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    6 months ago

    ah yes, citations needed, the "hyper partisan" podcast that spends all of its run time telling you exactly how every awful policy in this country is bipartisan and democrats are bloodthirsty capitalist racist imperialist colonialist ghouls who you should under no circumstances pledge your fealty to.

    bowtie dipshit bell curve fetishizing media pathologically incapable of decoupling partisanship from politics and imagining a world outside their narrow overton window despite it being literally 110% of what Citations Needed talks about during any given episode, which surely they listened to at least a few before plotting them on this graph, right???? peppino-angry

    • fox [comrade/them]
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      6 months ago

      Lovett or Leave It is also straight up a comedy news podcast like Wait Wait Don't Tell Me, they're not trying to be factual

      • VILenin [he/him]M
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        6 months ago

        I don’t think they listened to a single minute of any of the podcasts other than NPR, they just compiled a list of “radical left”, “center”, and “radical right” podcasts and arranged the “data” to fit the preconceived model, with the “extreme” podcasts being randomly assigned a pecking order on the Pinocchio chart descending down from the holy unquestionable Gospel of NPR