we've got the same posts sitting at the top of "active" for days and then tons of posts showing up in "hot" with near zero comments. new "hot" is the same as old "active"

switch it over to "hot" or you aren't a real poster

  • Lester_Peterson [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Yeah sure but all you nerds sorting by "hot" are missing out on the greatest content this site has to offer: day long struggle sessions over terf island's islands in the South Atlantic.

    • TheLepidopterists [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      I have opinions about this topic but I don't care strongly enough about them to become embroiled in the struggle session thread. It's a fun read though.

    • solaranus
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      1 year ago

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    • GorbinOutOverHere [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      Some motherfucker um akshually'd me about how rich the Falkland Islanders are because LITERALLY FIFTY PERCENT making $19k a year or less isn't "a majority making poverty wages" lmao fuck off

    • Huitzilopochtli [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      In response to what is pretty much just a diplomatic high five from China lol

      This community is bound together by stupid arguments at this point.

    • somename [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      Posting is scary sometimes when everyone's commented a bunch.

        • AernaLingus [any]
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          1 year ago

          Back in the old forum days necroposting was frowned upon because it would bump dead posts to the top, but since that's no longer a concern I don't see anything wrong with it. And since we're a smaller forum threads tend to live a bit longer, too.

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Really depends on what you're saying imo. If you're being nice? I don't care. If someone is dropping some bullshit in my inbox on something more than 2 days old I'm popping off.

          Under that you're fine.

  • FakeNewsForDogs [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Yeah, active has been a real bummer. Keep looking for that new slop but I just keep seeing the same old slop. I can’t take it. No offense, comrades but much of this slop goes sour rather quickly. Going to try this.

    • MF_COOM [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Under settings you can change it so you default to Hot, yeah it's better active is like a graveyard

      • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
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        1 year ago

        Oh my fucking god, I swear that setting wasn't there yesterday, when I actively looked for it. Am I having a Berenstain Bears situation?!? I've now switched my sort to hot, as I wanted to do fucking yesterday, but literally couldn't find the option in settings. Probably I'm just a dummy, really, so I'm glad I looked again

          • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
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            1 year ago

            Yeah, I believe it. As I suspected, I'm probably just a dummy. Thanks for making me look again for an option I definitely want! rosa-salute

    • mar_k [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Keep looking for that new slop but I just keep seeing the same old slop

      Think this is a bit indicative of how online we are ngl 💀

      Definitely agree hot should be the default tho, sucks to have a lower chance of getting engagement on posts you make now

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Active is best because conversations can actually flow and continue instead of reddit where once the most popular comments are established, they just snowball from there

    The active algorithm is quite possibly the best thing about Lemmy that makes it distinct from reddit

    If people are still talking about a post from days ago rather than something new, then allow that to happen

    • TheBeatles [any]
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      1 year ago

      Yeah I always hated the reddit paradigm where posts get buried just because they're a few hours old. Often I'll see an interesting post that I want to comment on but I dont bother because the post is over 12 hours old so nobody will see it.

      There's a "new comments" mode now which works like a forum where posts get bumped to the top when someone comments on it. Makes more sense to me than any of these vaguely defined algorithms.

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      1 year ago

      The point of threads being daily is that people visit daily and want something new within the time range of their regular visiting pattern. If the content isn't new within that time range they go elsewhere looking for content to amuse themselves instead - because they already looked at this content 2 days ago.

      If Lemmy sticks to this sort as its main thing then it will simply lose to competing systems that provide daily content instead.

      • GaveUp [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        This could be true and makes sense but for now, it's an unsupported hypothesis

        Posts that stay high after 2 days like the China Falklands one means that many people are commenting and interacting with that post, which means there is a lot of interest

        If a post doesn't Garner much attention, then it would quickly fall off and die after a day regardless

        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          It's the same on all social media. Everything is built around creating daily routines and habits.

          One thing that most social media people recognise is that social media kinda slots into people's free time in a habitual way. You're on the toilet, or the bus, or you just sat down at the computer at work, or you just got on lunch, or you're standing in line at the store. These things happen routinely, every single day, where people do the same thing every single day when it happens.

          When they check [social media] they're doing it for their quick dose of routine slop.

          Posts that stay high after 2 days like the China Falklands one means that many people are commenting and interacting with that post, which means there is a lot of interest

          Platforming drama and controversy doesn't mean good content. There's a danger in this mindset of falling into the trap of "all engagement is good engagement".

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          I can only give my anecdotal example, but for me at least, Awoo is 100% correct. My go-to to kill time at work was to go through all the new posts by sorting top (day) and then active to see all the (non-dead) posts that day.

          Something worth considering is that the posts with the most comments on hexbear tend to be pointless struggle sessions or drama which if anything are negative value to the site. This may change with federation and/or growth, but the site culture is pretty solidified at this point.

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        1 year ago

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        • Awoo [she/her]
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          1 year ago

          Honestly most people don’t have the time to visit the site daily

          The average internet user spends 2hours and 30minutes per day viewing social media. People definitely have the time. This is something a lot of people do in a break, eating breakfast, on the toilet or sitting on the bus. Each look at their phone adds up.

          Only a small portion of that is going to Reddit, a lot of it is probably Facebook and Twitter. But I don't think the "don't have time" point works here.

  • Parzivus [any]
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    1 year ago

    Yeah but hot is essentially the same as new
    The old hot we had before the merge seemed to be better

  • Yurt_Owl
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    1 year ago

    Maybe admins should set the default to hot for everyone mebeh

    • spectre [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Active sort is a known bug that has already been fixed on lemmy.ml. I assume we'll have the new version of Lemmy deployed here within a week or two to resolve it here.

  • TheWorldSpins [any, undecided]
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    1 year ago

    I technically sort by "top" because I keep getting that bug that resets all my scrolling as though I refreshed the page.

  • Cadende [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    But they won't see this until Saturday (and only if it gets a bunch of upbears) juche-tears

  • MF_COOM [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    They literally will never see this. I agree comrade, but this needs to be posted in the mega to have any purchase

    Edit: I went to check - actually this post is on Active rn, right next to a post from two days ago lol.

  • EmmaGoldman [she/her, comrade/them]M
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    1 year ago

    Just post how ya post. We gotta get our posting numbers up, real rookie numbers. Sure we're chart-topping Lemmy, but we need to outpost Deaddit.