Original Meme

TIL, after years of playing Stardew Valley on-off, that Pierre apparently has quite the (well-deserved) hatedom.

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        • Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml
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          5 months ago

          iirc it's basically about how the "invisible hand" doesn't actually exist it's just big corporations (which basically own the country anyway) making deliberate, informed decisions rather than a central government

          • NinjaGinga [he/him]
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            5 months ago

            this Yup, it's about how major corpos do central planning too, directed by banks, and how Mises Calculation Problem has been acceptably solved thanks to computers and vertical integration, or some shit. Not as revolutionary a book as I was hoping, but it's a short read and a nice gotcha for market-brained libs and chuds

            • dannoffs [he/him]
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              5 months ago

              Your comment and the one above actually summarize the whole book a d you do not actually need to read it.

            • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
              hexagon
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              5 months ago

              Wondering if there's a good, concise book like this which tears apart the myth of private railroad market efficiency in the 19th and 20th centuries (which is a common one Lolberts try to tout).

  • Luna [she/her, sie/hir]
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    5 months ago

    I need the lore. What did Pierre do that makes Jojomart look proletarian?

  • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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    5 months ago

    To this day, I still can't get over the fact that the Ferngill Republic, the country Stardew Valley is in, is at war with another country on its southern border and that the Ferngill Republic is almost certainly the aggressor owning to the complete lack of damage towards Stardew Valley's infrastructure. Since Stardew Valley is a border town located at the Ferngill-Gotoro border, it doesn't make sense for Stardew Valley to not suffer damage to its infrastructure from the Gotoro military unless the Ferngill military invaded the Gotoro Empire and have the frontlines be miles south of the internationally recognized Ferngill-Gotoro border.

    • Krem [he/him, they/them]
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      5 months ago

      critical support to giving the veteran husband war flashbacks via popcorn or whatever happened i haven't played this game in six years

      • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
        hexagon
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        5 months ago

        That's also something annoying since it (along with the Prairie King) implies the existence of guns when I'm risking my neck against eldritch horrors in Skull Cavern and Ridge Forest with a dinky little sword.

    • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
      hexagon
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      5 months ago

      I used to rationalize this as the two countries preferring not to shit where they eat and duking it out over small tracks of land elsewhere of strategic and economic importance (like an unmentioned archipelago). Then SVE ruined it by adding a Gotoran character (Olivia) who’s worried about her relatives back home.

      Would be nice, if there were a class traitor kulak path, to have an option where you amass large amounts of political-economic power and capital-strike the government into peace but I’m probably putting more thought into something the creator intended to be a cheap Iraq/Afghanistan vet analogue with Kent.

  • BeamBrain [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Been a while since I played the game, what did Pierre do?

    • FALGSConaut [comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      He's a petite bourgeois parasite who underpays you for your produce, overcharges the townsfolk, and takes credit for high quality produce you sell him. Plus he's got that Mr Beast brain disease that makes him think enjoying himself is a waste of potential earning time, he never participates in festivals and instead operates a popup shop.

      The only thing he has going for him is his opposition to Jojo, but that's not even on moral grounds, he just wants his own petite monopoly without the threat of a massive corporation running him out of business. Oh, and he punches the Jojo manager whats-his-nuts (I never interact with Jojo outside mandatory cutscenes) if you encourage him to.

      • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        He's a petite bourgeois

        Stardew is literally a petite bourgeois fantasy role play game. You inherit property from your grandpa in some cutesy pastoral town where everyone is a small business Kulak. The proletariat culture of the towns mining past totally erased by these upper middle class yeoman larpers who probably moved into the area when all the mining jobs dried up.

        There should be a mod where the Red Guards come into Stardew and forcibly collectivize all your Kulak ass property to grow wheat for the proletariat.

        It is a fun game tho I get to make such a cute farm!!!

        • ryepunk [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          Unironically I would adore being given strict demands on how much produce they need and then trying to accomplish that for the glory of the state. Would make for a fun change of pace rather than just growing a quadrillion star fruits and turning them into wine.

          • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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            5 months ago

            monkey paw curls

            You are now head of the Stardew Valley labor camp in the Ferngill Republic, but Ferngill Republic is a fascist country currently at war with the Socialist Republic of Gotoro (smeared in Ferngillian propaganda as "Gotoro Empire"). Your task is to grow crops to feed Ferngillian troops who are currently waging a war of annihilation in Gotoro lands.

            • ryepunk [he/him]
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              5 months ago

              It would be so weird to see it become a papers please, where you need to decide which people can work on the farm, and if you get the spies you can have your produce poisoning the troops, or diverting excess to the Gotoron troops..and it culminates in air strikes on the farm and a tank battle across the village.

        • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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          5 months ago

          Daily reminder that the country Stardew Valley is in is currently at war with another country to its southern border, and Kent almost certainly got PTSD from shooting too many Gotoro kids in the face.

      • Rose Thorne(She/Her)@lemm.ee
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        5 months ago

        Don't forget the fact that he's negligent towards his wife and daughter! And that his daughter may not be his own, depending on if you wanna go down the Rasmodius fan-theory rabbit hole.

        • mar_k [he/him]
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          5 months ago

          yea it's implied he's very controlling over his (young adult) daughter. when you talk to her in a cutscene in the mini graveyard at night, he comes after her and starts being a pig

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      • mar_k [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        takes credit for high quality produce you sell him

        also implied when you give him really shitty, slightly rotten produce he'll feed it to his family to save a few pennies. abigail mentions having the thing you sold him for dinner last night and goes "I guess it was starting to go bad and my dad couldn't bear to throw it out!"

    • 小莱卡@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      Three years ago we regarded a merchant as a completely respectable person. Provided his accounts were in order and he did not cheat or dupe his customer too obviously, he was rewarded with the title of “merchant of the first guild”, “respected citizen”, etc.

      Since the revolution attitudes, to trade and merchants have changed radically. We now call the “honest merchant” a speculator, and instead of awarding him honorary tides we drag him before a special committee and put him in a forced labour camp. Why do we do this?’ Because we know that we can only build a new communist economy if all adult citizens are involved in productive labour.

  • Owl [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    Someone should make a mod where you have a third option of starting your own farmer's market, and then you either slowly become a commune or another small business tyrant, based on things like whether you give away free food and whether you let other people join in.