Anyway I’m an INFJ, let’s discuss
Hell yeah I love horoscopes but with more steps. The whole introvert/extrovert thing is even worse
It really does feel like a horoscope for atheists and people who genuinely believe Freud was on to something
It is even worse than Freud, it is - may Allah forgive me for uttering this word - Jung
If they abandoned the birth month thing and just let people pick their favorite sign, horoscopes would be more accurate than Meyers-Brigs.
id pick capricorn cause its half fish and half goat. it can climb up mountains but also goes splishy splashy.
i have no idea what that says about me
More than a test that arbitrarily assigns you a personality type that was generated by somebody coming up with four binary choices and filling out a chart.
:thinkin-lenin: well... yeah, cause its a self selected indicator, of course its more applicable than something that isnt self selected?
but wouldnt that be a quarternary choice? or is it multiple sets of binaries?
okay not gonna lie here i have no fucking clue how meyers brigs personality thing works and i will not apologize for it
i think the introvert extrovert thing has some merit but they don't realize that 99% of people are an ambivert and somewhere in the middle and its basically a meaningless metric.
what if instead of ambivert it was bimbovert and it was just for the fellas?
At least the stars are real things that move about, introvert extrovert is literally just nothing
Zoë or Zelda
Supposedly extroversion-introversion spectrum is a thing that has biological underpinnings and is also observed among apes.
Any test that relies on self-reported answers is going to be partially bullshit.
I remember gaming my tests to give me a "machiavellian" personality back when I was a teen. hehe im so cool and i don't care about anything
This is particularly true in the Feeling/Thinking dimension of MBTI.
"Do you think with your MIND or with your FEELINGS???" Yeah I'm sure literally anyone answered that one truthfully.That said it's gotta have some amount of correlation to actual personality traits, and I can say consistently that INTJs (or rather, people who evaluate themselves to be INTJs) are the worst ones overall. I consistently test INTP. I think generally anybody with J, and to a lesser extent T and N, are going to be intolerable people to be around. To be honest the very existence of J is incompatible with T, because Judging is inherently a Feeling activity.
MBTI is bad and cringe but is probably slightly accurate with a weak correlation coefficient of like .3 or something. As bad as it is, it's still nowhere near the absolute astrology that is the political compass.
I get a different result every time, so I think my personality type is LIAR
My results weren't as random as that, but it was entirely shaped about how I felt at the time. Mood: "I'm not always social, but I want to be more social." Result: "Extrovert." Mood: "People suck and tire me out." Result: "Introvert." Similar with the others - get a result I don't like? Retake the test and answer differently on questions I wasn't sure about - BAM! opposite result.
There're definitely different personality types, but it's hard to fit them into a simple system. They're a little help if you want to understand yourself (a useful exercise, if not taken to extremes), but they're no substitute for life experience or just talking to more people. The measure of a person is other people.
IMO the intro/extro and thinking/feeling dimensions are the least important parts of the test and can be completely ignored
I think the other parts might have something behind them tho
I've gotten ENFP, then ENTP, then ENFP again, then INTP. I may have dissociative identity disorder.
That's probably it, I do a lot of "mostly agree" because who the hell has absolute certainty about all aspects of their character
INTJ. Read the subreddit for this type, they all think they're superior-intellect billionaires waiting to happen any day now.
I know the test is bunk but I feel like guys I meet similar to me in personality (been criticized as cold and unfriendly throughout life) are always right-wing or liberal at best with progressive lip service. Probably because they identify as "logical" and it's code for "I'm a fucking cunt who never learned how to work on my weaknesses and consider that others suffer from the system in ways I haven't."
Some may care and others may not, but the whole point of the INTJ archetype is to be highly analytical, and logical.
The problem is that the test doesn't test whether you're logical vs. emotional.
The test asks you "do you think of yourself as logical, or emotional?"
Guess what literally everyone and their mothers put down for that one.
So yeah, INTJs, or if you'd like we can call them "INTJ"s, are bad because they're the types of F people who want to think of themselves as T because it makes them Feel better. They're actually worse than normal F people because normal Fs at least have the self-awareness to acknowledge their Fness (which ironically makes them more T than like 80% of the population)
Reminds me of that Bill Murray quote where everyone wants to think of themselves as Bugs Bunny but secretly fears they're Daffy Duck.
And I’m sorry, no logical analysis of society would attribute economic outcomes to intellect.
Yeah but life doesn't work like that. In theory everyone would think that mutual kindness and empathy leads to a better system, but in reality we've got something called a bunch of normies -- where I define "normie" as "People who are happy to punch down."
INTJ subreddit is a bunch of fucking normies.
Idk why people even follow that shit, every Psych 101 class basically treats it as "astrology for nerds but boring"
Personality tests are a great example of how complete bunk infiltrates society so throughly that no one thinks to ask "Hey is this completely made up bullshit?" and people look at you like you're crazy when you point out that it's completely made up bullshit. Astrology, enneagrams, myer-briggs types, personality blood types, lie detector machines, all of it, all bullshit with no basis in anything but woo woo magic thinking.
Personality tests are a great example of how complete bunk infiltrates society so throughly that no one thinks to ask “Hey is this completely made up bullshit?”
Political compass is an even better example of that. At least personality tests can claim to measure something. Policomp doesn't even know what the fuck it's measuring
Wait wait wait. Why the FUCK IS NATIONAL SOCIALISM LEFT WING?
because white people are incapable of understanding multidimensional phenomena
I love the "statist" insult because it implies the existence of people who just cheerlead all states everywhere, no matter what they do and no matter what form they take.
yeah thats right, im a statist. i love states. all states. solids, liquids, gases, plasma, you name a state and i am all about it!
state of excitation
drinking from a coffee mug that says Quark-Gluon Plasma Inspector
Holy shit everything about that entire first thread is the most cursed shit I have ever seen.
It honestly seems like a meme since it's splitting left/right on the feeling/thinking axis respectively, more of the right wing meme "the left is wrong and dumb because they listen to fee fees anyway let me tell you how I'm feeling that the culture is against me"
Mediators value authenticity, empathy, and harmony. These personalities tend to act with the best of intentions, and they are rightly proud of this trait. That said, they may feel isolated or discouraged when other people don’t share their idealism.
I think this test just called me a lib, I'll need to make 20 Hail Stalins and 30 Ave Lenins to atone for this shit.
Every personality test may be baseless, self-indulgent nonsense. I'm still gonna keep taking them though...
Almost no one else is embarrassing themselves with you. Cowards. I'm INTP.
Honestly feels like being IN_P might give you better chances of understanding reality fully (and thus ending up here or some other "tanky" space).
I for being introverted, because otherwise you'd be socializing instead of figuring stuff out on the internet
N for intuitive, because otherwise you'd get your "sensing" evidence from lib propaganda rags like wapo and forbes
and P for perceiving, because you're more interested in knowing what reality is, rather than making reality something you want it to be (judging). a J person would tend to pick what they like and just start saying that's true because they like it, and then search for all the evidence to fit their worldview. (which is basically what 80% of redditors do).
I feel like the perceiving part is actually the most important part of the test. I mean the test is bogus obvs but I'm talking about the shred of legitimacy that it has left
The two biggest subreddits for personality types are r/INFP and r/INTP. Putting aside whether they're more likely to understand things, they're the most likely to be terminally online, it seems.
From both of your observations I have come up with my own hypothesis: IN_Ps are most likely to take an online quiz to find out what type they are 🤔
well, if P = yearn for knowledge, it makes sense that they are terminally online
I've noticed that too. Maybe I'm INFP but I relate to ENFP a lot too
My other INTP IRL friend is a nut though, alex jones type
But is his heart in the right place? (as cringe as that sounds) In other words, does he actually legitimately believe these conspiracy type conclusions to be factually true, and has he considered the evidence behind them (however imperfectly)?
This is different from a more emotional and dogmatic INTJ/INFJ type, who would pick the issues they identify with, and then believe the stories that support that position, without weighing any of the evidence. For instance, someone who shouts "China is responsible for the most carbon emissions" would be less likely to be an INTP, I would bet (because the statement is just so obviously incorrect that you would have to be lying or unquestioningly following the consensus, both of which are not INTP traits).
I definitely subscribe to a few conspiracy theories, and I think INTPs (Ps in general) are more prone to this. Because the P trait is fundamentally about being "open to knowledge". This can lead to some real wacky shit. If you've ever heard of people like Madam Blavatsky, those nuts are definitely _NFPs.
INTJ, apparently I'm basically a sociopath and descriptions are made to make you feel like you're somehow intellectually superior to everyone by default.
Definitely not going to give anyone ego issues lol.
Is it bullshit? Yes, of course. Do i know what house my mercury is in? Also yes.
I'm surprised some of you people are defending this mumbo-jumbo. If you want a bit of psychometry in your life why not use the OCEAN model instead? It's Jordan Peterson-approved and is widely used in actual psychological research. Sure, it won't label you an Architect or a Visionary or something but there's still fun to be had. Like did you know that if you like to keep your room tidy you might just be a Nazi?
