If you vote for Harris or Trump
We will remember that you endorsed genocide.
You might as well start wearing a red armband with a swastika.
If the circumstances permit (granted, things would have to get very dire for them to permit), I honestly hope that any and all of those who spewed this intolerable shit and actually materially supported either genocide-party face consequences, akin to how those who supported Nazism after Nazi Germany's fall did in the occupation (well, or were supposed to... the west screwed up the process for west Germany...)
It's not like it would be hard to track them down. Most of these genocidaires are proudly out there showing their asses for this genocide.
We'll have a long memory
Given my experience with liberals (I suppose just Americans in general), that's gonna be a big
from meWhat they mean is 20 years from now someone will write a twitter thread claiming that
ralph naderjill stein was responsible for the $US_MILITARY_ATROCITY of 2026 then be dogpiled by people calling them an idiot because every democrat in the house & senate voted for it. I am quaking in my boots thinking of the reckoning that I will experience on that day.
lol that looks almost exactly like something @GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net would shit out on badposting
Oh yikes they still preaching the lesser of two genocides hmm? Losers.
We will remember that you helped Trump
Why are people who think you suck supposed to care what you do or don't manage to remember?
Liberals seem to think they have the leverage to impose some sort of social consequences on the people who grossly outnumber them (non-voters plus people who vote for other parties) and largely don't like or associate with them in general.
Liberals seem to think they have the leverage to impose some sort of social consequences
They are gonna do what they were gonna do anyway
that film came out 11 years ago, this meme was crafted by a boomer-millennial
I was gonna write about that too. This meme is really shit. Like the macro does not complement the text even a little bit. It's like they demanded a 50 year old staffer to churn out a meme and this was the result. But seeing how Harris radicals operate is not hard to imagine someone made this for free.
They hate trump so much they're cozing up with the Cheneys. In What world do they think there's a long memory?
Hatred for Trump has nothing to do with it. Liberals have always fetishised "reaching across the aisle" as they call it. And they have to rationalise that GOP is a grave threat to Americans (especially the women and minorities they love to hide behind) yet somehow it also needs to exist. So they like to imagine that there are sects within the party that are reasonable and they rehabilitate hellspawns like Bush and Cheney who have long since retired from direct bloodletting.
a huge amount, like 35-50% in a given election. Probably because of the whole:
Show
I thought it was over 50%, and if democrats earnestly believed "1 un-vote is 1 for Trump", I imagine they'd despair quite a lot
It's funny cause hexbear was one of the og instances along with like lemmy.ml and the contributors here do a lot of heavy lifting for the lemmy project as a whole lol like I think hexbear devs made pinning threads for lemmy possible
Pinning a post globally was something I upstreamed, IIRC. Also Emojis and Taglines
Hard to believe there was a time before having a thousand custom emotes. I was there in the first week and barely remember anything but the random struggle sessions
You know, I bet we’re going to adopt your emojis eventually.
i think a few instances actually have, i know lemmy blahaj zone has them implemented but they dont always work and lemmy world said they were going to implement them but then never did
Lemmy.world is the biggest instance, and given it being an anti-Marxist instance designed to replicate Reddit, it has the most turbo-radlibs that couldn't stay on Reddit through the API crisis. Zionism, transphobia, racism, all manner of the worst takes possible. The smuggest people on the Fediverse, and the rudest.
Sh.itjust.works is 50/50 lib/fascist, NCD and MeanwhileOnGrad push the fascism.
Lemmy.ca is just landlords.
Lemm.ee is more of a tool than an instance.
Lemmy.ml is constantly a struggle session, .worlders outnumber communists and anarchists but the mods side with the communists, so it's constantly a struggle.
Grad is grad, doing fine it seems.
Dbzer0 still pretends to be okay with Marxists, but they can't support AES. Weird spot, doing okayish.
Solarpunk is small but has your typical anti-AES anarchist slant, some users are more reasonable than others, which is just a symptom of putting aesthetic over politics.
Think that does it!
·1 month agoStalking your ml profile is a window into the madness of the lemmyverse. I don't know how you can keep arguing with libs like that.
It's an outlet to get out frustration, honestly, though sometimes it leaves me more frustrated. I've stated before, Hexbear is by far the more enjoyable instance for me, but I get satisfaction out of calling genocidal libs out or proving some ultraleft "Marxist" wrong about their understanding of Marxism.
Solarpunk as a concept is so funny
What if my politics were just, like, a vibe
I've spoken with a few users, carefully pointing out how by being anti-Marxist but not also being anti-liberal, and further having no links to theory of any sort beyond aesthetic choices, opens them up to opportunism. They seemed to vaguely accept it, hope it can get through to them.
You're out there combating liberalism every day and I admire it
See, it's entirely self-driven and egotistical, I get grim satisfaction from asserting my knowledge of theory against the smug liberals. It isn't healthy, nor is it out of any grander vision, I still haven't picked a party to join yet. It's just me being a debatebro, albeit less of one than I used to be on Reddit.
I appreciate the sentiment, I just think my energy would be more productive elsewhere.
I joined FRSO recently and they've been very cool to work with. Just a plug if you're looking to take the plunge and join an org
Checking out both my local FRSO and PSL chapters! I've heard "mixed" things resulting in some chapters being great and others being awful for each, so I am trying to investigate on my own more. Hard to do without doxxing myself, haha.
Don't say that! i look up to your outwardly patient understanding when you handle them. I don't have the patience, so i respect your high effort
I appreciate it! I do. However, I can't deny that I do it for selfish reasons, haha. The Lemmy.world mods started removing my comments calling out the democrats support for genocide though, so that's even worse.
They blocked Hexbear immediately, hopeless, that place really does just have an aesthetic.
Yep, so I am trying to convince individual users when the opportunity arises.
Ah yes the whole aesthetic ideology born out of a yogurt commercial.
Distilled liberalism with solar panels and white buildings
Dbzer0 still pretends to be okay with Marxists, but they can't support AES. Weird spot, doing okayish.
Whenever I see some shitlib bullshit it's always either from them or the stupid star trek instance
Yep, anti-AES Anarchists often play into Imperialist hands, which describes the overall dbzer0 pretty well. Our Anarchists are great!
its fun to go to the db0 left meme comm and see how they get swarmed by world libs and fash for the most average and boring socialist memes
It was at first, but for some reason dbzer0 is filled with the "Lenin wasn't a Marxist" and the "Engels wasn't true to Marx" and the "Marx would've been an Anarchist" types. Full respect to our Anarchist comrades for actually reading both Marxist and Anarchist theory, the dbzer0 Anarchists are a different set entirely.
just looked at it and the db0 guy with the dudebro pfp who got banned from here is making memes advocating for supporting small businesses as anarchist praxis
edit: just realised he's not advocating for supporting small businesses, he's actually advocating for supporting large businesses against their larger competitors
I keep seeing the acronym AES but I can't figure out what it means, can you please explain?
Actually Existing Socialism. USSR, PRC, Cuba, DPRK, Vietnam, Laos, etc
Oh I'm aware, I want Nutomic gone. Dessalines seems okay outwardly, but keeps Nutomic on, for some reason.
Wait, lemm.ee, that's me! I'm on a tool instance?
...
Yeah that checks out
Kinda! I don't think .ee users use it for the instance itself, but for having no real defederation.
Blahaj is where people go before getting chased off to hexbear.net?
Someone from reddit.world accused me of being a right-wing troll and it started a dog pile session where they got torn apart by a dozen other commenters for being a moron. It was actually really affirming that my neurotic screaming into the void has been acknowledged and accepted.
Never stop posting. 😏
I got banned for world news because i was asking why something was deleted as a comment.
Worst thing about lemmy is having no way to ask questions to mods other than just spam dming.
Although Pretty sure it was because I kept arguing with one of the protected pro Israel accounts based on how all but that accounts comments were getting removed in any thread
They've been havin struggle sessions about hexbear nearly once a week. We're on their minds a lot lol, especially peeps from .dbzero and .world.
My guilty pleasure has been perusing those threads and then thru the biggest crybaby's modlogs to enjoy the sweet schadenfreude of the hexbear thread where they got clowned.
The average Hexbear post is pretty wild when you're a lib. I remember finding r/cth in 2016 and the shit people would say casually in the comments kinda blew me away. "Do it again Sherman" goes crazy with a Southern education.
Even then as a Berniebro they were a lot closer to my politics than 2016 reddit (🤮). Funnier too
yeah i was a newly minted socdem coming from vague left-libertarianism that often posted in r/politics and kept hearing about how scary r/cth was.
so i made a different account to go check it out (because god forbid i get banned from everywhere for touching the forbidden subreddit)
some of that stuff shocked me a bit at fiorst but only took me a few days to realize everyone was far more progressive then the so called "left as it gets" libs. also there was none of that reddit smarm and "personal responsibility, FAFO" BS.
then I was riding the sub along with the pod during the Great Bernie Ratfuck finally made the stalin, lenin and mao posting no longer seem shocking but instead deeply prophetic
the ops are usually libs who have been recently banned from here, misrepresenting their ban and admonishing others to "stay away for their own safety". Beyond regular ol hurt feelings i don't know why we stick in their craw so bad
I think part of the reason is that we're their reminder that they aren't "as left as it gets". Which is why they push the "redfash" line so much, it's how they cope.
Which instances are having struggle sessions about us?
I would love to read them to satisfy my morbid masochism.
https://sh.itjust.works/post/26126787 was a tasty one from last week. Let's see... This one was fun ...https://sh.itjust.works/post/26003281.... This one had comments for days https://sh.itjust.works/post/24781037
I feel like we need some automated post grabber that just collects these post and cross posts theme here.
You're better than i. I relish their pain and the fact they think far more about us than we them, but i cannot resist watching them twist and seethe in anger. It is low, i know, but i'm still so angry at shitlibs for their smug and stupid worldview being the only voice i could hear and speak with for so long... It twisted me some, and I'll never stop hatin' baby.
I watch them cry out in pain and surprise after spouting the nonsense that gets them lib-upvotes and am healed. They stand in for every talking head i scream at on the tv. Their sweet pained voices are answers from all those i can't hold accountable.
Yes, yes I am bitter. I'm working on it.
Acknowledging is the first step to change! They deserve ire though, but that is the crux of mercy - not giving someone what they deserve.
i wish the network as a whole had more users i got excited the first time i scrolled through the federated instances like damn this shit is so cool then realised most of them have like 10 users
Lemmyworld is the biggest right wing instace and that kinda ruins the other instances with their libs and fash users, they also working in some java alternative to lemmy but they have zero progress on that
Because lemmy ml is controled by evil tankies who force freedom loving people to learn rust in order to develop the site
Why did they leave Reddit if they love capitalism so much?
Most go back to Reddit, the ones that stay are the "true believers" in whatever vibes-based ideology occupies their brainpan.
And then there are those who likely use both, but come to lemmy just to
ML's
They hate themselves. Even better is if you look at their repo is barely Java and mostly go.
To the point they had to ask for go contributors. So not only are they not willing to learn rust but they won't learn go
their big idea is to make it so that instances they dont like have way less influence without technically shadowbanning them, the way one of the guys working on it explained it to me is that basically theyre making it so lemmy.ml users' upvotes are ignored by the algorithm and also their comments are put to the bottom on posts or something like that
Completely rewrite a fully functioning foss and decentralized project with a lot of users written in an insanely fast modern language and use ..
javalook it may look like we're not upgrading lemmy to get features we make it look like we're adding due to sublinks but it's totally just because we only want stability
https://lemmy.world/comment/12835293
instance keeps causing federation issues for other instances because of how poorly world seems to be implemented
https://lemmy.sdf.org/post/23650163
they also working in some java alternative to lemmy but they have zero progress on that
i talked to one of the guys leading it and basically their big innovation is that they're going to invent a new kind of shadowban to do to all lemmy.ml users
I only remember other instances when I load up Hexbear and forget to press "local". I read a few awful and unfunny posts and then realize that I made a huge mistake
you can set your default to Local in the settings and never have that experience again, FYI
.Midwest supports Hexbear, but I don’t see as many of us posting out there. But you can see us if your looking at /all, correct? I don’t think we have many popular comms.
.world is 80% shitlibs and 15% amateur leftists, or un-radicalized, but well meaning socdems. And 5% fucking idiots. This is just re: posts in comms and conversation (both .world and those federated) happening in the posts. Imo the conversation in the unimportant-but-popular comms on .ml look a lot like their (sometimes comparable in size) .world equivalent. But a lot more shitlib (and “you better fucking vote” [someone post me an emoji I can put there]) stuff posted .world memes and other such comms. Sometimes I see outright jabs at leftists (and I have downvotes so I use them), but mostly just stupid lib stuff.
Also, I love seeing some of my Hexbear comrades out in the .ml and other discussions. I like your words @cowbee@hexbear.net !
Thanks! I've seen good stuff on midwest.social, not every take is good but usually one of the better instances for sure.
There are three types of takes out in the trenches. Standard "tankie" takes, standard "vote blue no matter who" shitlib takes, and bizarre, idiosyncratic takes that exactly one person on earth believes, but which they'll treat as the most obvious thing in the world.
Most recently, I was informed that Marxism is not worth studying on the basis that Marx culturally appropriated communism from indigenous Australians. PugJesus, one of the most prolific shitlib posters, has some great material on Marxism too.
The bizarre, ideosyncratic takes always seem to circle back around to, "And that's why you should vote blue no matter who, also China and Russia are committing genocide," but they spice things up and you get to play this fun little game of trying to decipher the brainworms while they yell at you.
The other instances (other tham .ml and lemmygrad) are increasingly genocidal and hate "tankies". So about the same trajectory they've been on all along.
Vegantheoryclub.org is doing ok I think. We’re a literal offshoot of the hexbear vegan struggle sessions of 2021 tho it was mostly discord until we launched a lemmy instance.
