You mean your bullshit screed hating on public rail and showing your anti-homeless brainworms where you literally implied that "people don't hate them enough"?
Also "boo hoo the 'tankies' (whatever that even means to you libs anymore) bullied me for supporting violence against some of the most vulnerable people in the imperial core"
lmao You have been complaining about this for FIVE DAYS holy shit.
I love public rail and took it all over the place when I visited Japan, I even still have the JR Pass ticket in my wallet. If I had one public transportation wish for LA it's that every freeway have a light rail line like in the 105. As for the homeless situation I am all in for fully funded housing first initiatives and think we haven't done anywhere near enough for them. That said, the unfortunate state of events between the LA Metro and the city's homeless allows for some very problematic things to happen in light rail train cars especially during transit. I've seen quite a bit of drug use, littering, and even an instance when I had a taser brandished at my face only to find out a second later the guy was trying to sell it to me. I really wish people wouldn't react so quickly to a post and start accusing them of being some kind of monster.
"they certainly don't hate them enough to chase them away when they are smoking meth on the train" sounds kinda like you think that should be done and that the issue is people not hating the unhoused enough.
Especially when you come into a space that explicitly advocates for abolishing landlords and start saying that stuff, you should expect ridicule. Instead of complaining about it in other spaces for 5 days and repeatedly doubling down you could just do some very basic self-crit.
Now I am not going to take the anti homeless side here but you did claim they were lying about living in LA for not using a local term for train.
I'm not the one that made this post but it would track with the general reddit-like nature of their other comments. It sounds like a very common thing I hear from reactionaries IRL that are clearly made-up or are hyperfixating on a hypothetical or outlier incident instead of just understanding that is not a failure of trains. Like the whole context was "sometimes trains aren't good actually because I saw a mentally unwell person I have no proof is actually homeless." Not all unhoused people look like the caricature most people have in their head, and not everyone that does drugs in public on a train is actually unhoused, though the latter is certainly a more reasonable assumption to make. The combinations of all these characteristics of this person it was clear they were engaging in bad faith at best, and outright lying at worst. I am not making a judgement either way but it is a specific sort of reactionary thinking that is encountered all too often in online communist spaces, and so it's no surprise when people have short patience with this sort of thing.
If you've seen it enough you tend to get a sense for this time of debatebro and it's rare that it's a simple well-meaning misunderstanding because if it were it is very easy to have some humility. It's the getting all offended by people laughing at something that is a textbook reactionary response, in a place where bullying libs and reactionaries is a pillar of its community culture. Furthermore going around other instances and complaining about said community sort of makes you fair game and I would not call it brigading, especially in a "what are instances you hate" thread, wherein the User compared us to right wingers. Which is itself a very tired very old trope known as "horseshoe theory". And last but not least there is the term Tankie which is most often used to imply people on the imperial periphery or global south seeking national liberation are following a problematic ideology (because often the word gets used to refer to anyone left of Bernie Sanders on foreign policy a "tankie), which has deeply white supremacist or western chauvinist connotations.
So in short, does it really matter whether they live in LA or not? They certainly have a colonizer's mindset with regard to their local community even if they claim to be for "paying for more social services." That is like the core reason why social democracy and liberalism are derided as fascism lite by most communists.
You sure got a lot of context out of “they certainly don’t hate them enough to chase them away when they are smoking meth on the train”. I don't think that was a great thing to say (not that it is not an issue and needs to be addressed) but instead of even trying some level of communication or rebuttal it seems like everyone just went full "reactionary" on them.
There is no "sense for this time of debatebro" or ability to see enough text to pull from that one sentence a sentence of endless fascism (or whatever problematic box). They have every right to get upset and go around other instances, because yours banned them. I have not seen a lot of humility here from anyone involved but what gets me is that some people think they get all the rights but others don't.
Yes it does matter whether they live in LA or not as in one case they could be relating an actual experience they had and the other would be them spinning a web. In once case you could do some good and engage and for the other prove they where wrong and acting in bad faith.
Thank you for being a voice of reason MooPoo. I apologize if my original comment came off as callous and insensitive. I heavily sympathize with the plight of the homeless and my only problem is with those who can be a danger to themselves or others, especially in an enclosed area like a train. TBH I sympathize with ideologies that are beyond left of the American Overton window since I'm quite familiar with what Western countries have done to suppress them. Thanks for pointing out how they were the ones being reactionary without so much as giving a warning before the ban.
Nakoichi, I don't expect you to unban me from your community but I hope we can at least understand each other enough to not see us as enemies.
You're still sort of dodging the crux of the issue, you continue to place blame on the oppressed rather than engage with our comments and begin to grasp why the ultimate onus of responsibility lies on the oppressing classes. Let's not get too derailed here (pun intended) from the original context: Your comments were a critique of public transit, followed by trying to back up that critique with a personal anecdote of a time you felt threatened by a homeless person. The responses to this barely surface level take that indicated influence by a deluge of reactionary propaganda were not out of line to make uncharitable assumptions about you, since we have had a large influx of bad faith arguments along these lines since federating.
I am not the one that banned you, and you're right it's not even in my power since I am not a mod of c/urbanism, but it should be a point of self reflection on why that is the route you took instead of being indignant about it. You're the one that came into our instance and you might not understand what our rules fully entail or what reactionary behavior is but that's not really our fault, I gave you a detailed breakdown of the reasons folks that post like this get banned so quickly and you might read it if you care as much as you appear to.
Hell you can still post on Hexbear if you aren't site banned but you might try to start by asking good faith questions without preloading them with personal grievances. Or you can ask me, I'm pretty patient when I have reason to believe the inquirer is acting in good faith.
That said just be aware that civility is often reserved for people that have proven the latter so given prior engagement, just don't expect people not to dunk on you for an exceptionally bad take. Ignorance is not always a good excuse.
Thank you for apologizing and not turning out to be a total asshat as that would have been awkward.
(leaving this space in case ass is worn like hat in the future)
So whats your plan other then just let them smoke meth and steal from people obviously something needs to be done but putting your head in the sand and pretending there isn't actually a problem won't fix anything
A socialist state where housing is a guarantee and where poverty doesn't lead to widespread drug use because it doesn't exist. Also addiction recovery programs in the transitional state.
Why. What is yours, push them into a comically large blender? Or a prison, how about a prison?
Sure where people have wings and cancer doesn't exist yes the communist state is so great you choose to live in the west
For as much as the news talks about a declining birth rate, you are aware that people are still born in the west, right?
"Move"
You knowing moving isn't free and it isn't easy for most people to get a job in a country whose language they don't speak, right?
Furthermore, even if someone does move, then you don't take it as proof they are a hypocrite but rather proof they are delusional, so your original claims is just bad faith bullshit.
Well apparently everything is free in the communist utopia of china I'm sure you will do ok as a white dude with no money in china
Whoever said any of that?
On the bright side, since you seemed to imagine that I was going there, you proved my point that the first claim ("why don't you move there?") is bad faith bullshit
You joke but if you're a photgenic white dude, you can get hired just to stand around in a suit.
Kind of my dream job tbh
You know that real world socialist states don't have a homelessness problem anywhere approaching the west, especially the US, right?
The only fantasy here is in your capitalist realism soaked brain.
Right the millions of poor rural Chinese living below the poverty line don't exist sure if you pretend that the problem doesn't exist it makes it easier to believe the ccp propaganda
the poverty line is very made up bullshit based on nothing but vibes some economists had, not even any statistics, it should be higher in a lot of places, lower in others where the price of things is lower, but in any case, no one claimed poor rural Chinese people don't exist, ThereRisesARedStar said they don't have a homelessness problem anywhere approaching the west, which is true, all of those poor rural Chinese people have homes, hell most of them even own their own homes, they don't even rent, so, what exactly is your point? China has been the largest alleviator of poverty in modern history, yet, they do still have poverty, it has not been eradicated yet, but, they do not have a homelessness issue due to government initiatives that have worked very hard to make sure there is enough housing for their population (see western propaganda about ghost cities and the reality of how they're all filled with people now)
Yep figured just ignore facts who needs facts when you can just dogpile and gaslight anyone who doesn't think xi is gods gift to humanity
what facts did I deny? do you want me to get you the homelessness and home ownership statistics for China? I assure you that they support my point, which is that the majority of people in China (even the poor rural people) are not homeless and even own their own homes.
You are ignoring entire cities.
Westoid cope is going to reach Lovecraftian madness-levels in the next few years
Bruh do you have any idea how quickly I and so many other people here would pack our bags and move to China if we had the chance
yes the communist state is so great you choose to live in the west
which one are you talking about??
"I don't hate homeless people, I'm just saying that the homeless question needs a final solution"
Oh it’s YOU!
Hahahahahahaha
Holy shit lmao, you’re still on this?
It’s like driving past someone waving around an end of days convert or die sign, and then hours later passing by the same spot and they’re still there
Go eat some grass nerd
"I'm not anti-homeless, I just [anti-homeless horseshit]"
Is this a novelty account? lmao
I will call it as I see it, you monster :glados:
I experience the opposite. Whenever I criticise US government, I get attacked by hordes of cringy Americans.
I must say I had a pleasant conversation on workers’ rights in the US recently on c/technology (lemmy.world). By pleasant I mean "not being insulted because I live in France and workers do have rights so I’m a red commie" pleasant.
Little do people know everyone is shit and your personality that is only based on ideologies makes you look like a moron. Yes we know there is unfairness in the world. But any “ism” won’t fix it.
Yes we know there is unfairness in the world. But any “ism” won’t fix it.
Least of all quietism like you display
Little do people know everyone is shit
People who say this think they're being world-wise when they're actually just putting out a general warning about themselves
Just because you don’t care to look into it doesn’t mean you don’t prescribe to any ism
In fact, people who say shit like that most definitely do
True statement, but wtf? I don't think you mean it in a positive way like I do.
I do mean it positively, but I can understand why you would get a negative reading. I was trying to illustrate how reducing words to their components and dismissing them like that is such a stupid thought terminating cliche. Botulism, anarchism, autism, midwesternism, descriptivism are all words ending in -ism but really do not refer to similar or comparable things. The deeper idea that subscribing to or employing an ideology inherently leads to failure, which the original comment asserted, has already been torn to shreds by others, so I targeted the less important but more annoying failure of thought. I should have more carefully selected my words, sorry.
Thank you for replying, and I'm sorry I read your comment in bad faith. I should know you better than that by now, and I apologize.
No worries. Like I said, I should have gone with botulism or descriptivism, to make sure there was no misreading.
it looks like the only comments of yours that were removed were for making inflammatory comments about homeless people on public transport in a place you don't live.
Dude I was speaking from experience in that post. I live there and took the train daily. Do I need to show you my LA Metro card to prove it?
Post your credit card number and DLN while you're at it.
So a mod didn't like a comment you made which was interpreted as encouraging anti-homeless hate. Instead of just moving on you decided to make this about "tankies" despite no one saying anything about Marxist ideology, China, or anything related. I think you're just looking to pick a fight with us because we're dirty pinko commies or something.
That was probably a more level headed way to deal with this person than the way too generous effort post I just commented lol
If this was reddit I would say that post belongs on r/confidentialityincorrect
The “show 18 more comments” button below this comment isn’t loading and I so desperately want to see the cope within
I love that y'all use that as an insult. It only carries any weight in your own echo chamber, you know that right? No where else on the planet (be it a forum or a physical space) does that mean anything. Well, maybe within north korea
maybe within north korea
Don't worry, absolutely no one there is thinking about internet liberals, the DPRK lives rent-free in your head though
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Lol yeah they're thinking about the coming winter, or the reality that they aren't even allowed to leave their country (for all but the most privileged) unfortunately
they aren’t even allowed to leave their country
This is true, do you know who keeps them inside though? The United Nations' Security Council.
[...] the Security Council today further tightened sanctions on the country, severely restricting fuel imports and other trade, as well as the ability of its citizens to work abroad.
Hilarious joke, almost as funny as supporting sanctions that kill people because the sanctioned country has a scary ideology you know nothing about.
Uh huh. Keep defending them, very impressive. I wonder how the government of nk earned those sanctions?
Indeed their people suffer in more.ways than one.
I'm sure folks worried about food are the ones not finding work abroad 🙄
I wonder how the government of nk earned those sanctions?
Acquiring nuclear warheads and weapons that can be used with said warheads, the same thing Israel did and wasn't punished for, I wonder why that is...
(hint: one of these states is an American puppet!)
Also acquired in the context of preventing the world superpower from killing 20 percent of them again without them having to spend so much on their conventional military.
I wonder how the government of nk earned those sanctions?
"We do horrible things to them, but we're the good guys so they must deserve it"
Quick, tell me about the taean work system, which is used in all medium and large workplaces, without googling it. Since you're so informed about the dprk
(The point of this is to make you reconsider how much you actually know about the country that isnt just straight up propaganda)
I'll meet you: without googling I believe that is a work transfer system with China. I think it's rail based, and I think they stay for some time.
But they aren't free to go where they please, or leave the region entirely without ramifications.
Edit cause I was honest: I was wrong.
But are you purporting this agricultural system as effective?
Further I assume you bring that no fact up as argument that collectivist style policy is effective and happening, I would argue it is ineffective and still only a farce under authoritarianism. Else why would nk receive aid, and experience famine?
Lastly, I don't need to know the economic history of the country to know where they are now. It's not propaganda that got me here, it's their own words and reports.
But are you purporting this agricultural system as effective?
It isnt their agricultural system, I would suggest you reread the whole thing because you've missed the most important aspect of what taean means. It means a collaboration between organized local labor and wider democracy, overseen by special interests such as the woman's league.
Further I assume you bring that no fact up as argument that collectivist style policy is effective and happening, I would argue it is ineffective and still only a farce under authoritarianism. Else why would nk receive aid, and experience famine?
Why would you argue it is ineffective? Studies show the cooperatives work better than privately owned businesses. Also you haven't established that the dprk is "authoritarian" any more than any other state.
They experienced famine after the collapse of the USSR, theyre doing fine on food now.
Lastly, I don't need to know the economic history of the country to know where they are now. It's not propaganda that got me here, it's their own words and reports.
Well, you should. They tried to liberate the south when the US and US puppet dictator were killing tens of thousands of protestors. 20 percent of them died and all their infrastructure was bombed. After the war they did better under a socialist economy than the South until the US massively subsidized the South and the USSR collapsed, cutting off trade because of sanctions from the people who committed genocide on them (the US)
I would like to know what "own words and reports" you're referring to.
I would like to know what "own words and reports" you're referring to.
It's not propaganda that got me here, it's their own words and reports.
This is an unusual claim, as most people do not let the DPRK speak for itself, even to then refute it. All you see is third hand horseshit along with defector "testimony".
I wonder how the government of nk earned those sanctions?
This is such a deranged thing to say. Do you think this about Cuba too?
Cuba and north Korea are not the same country fyi
America bad, if it helps you clock out
So you're against the sanctions against Cuba, but for the sanctions against the DPRK?
They are not the same, but it is America sanctioning both of them, and despite your worthless disavowed, your claim still rests on the tacit assumption that it is fairly arbitrating which civilian population deserves to suffer for decades.
I wonder how the government of nk earned those sanctions?
Please enlighten me on why you think that is?
Also do you think the DPRK is a real sovreign nation?
say dumb shit about modern nk all you want, but saying they deserved it makes you purely evil if you know the context of the korean civil war
No they give them lots of money so they can be used as propaganda, like that lady that claimed NK moved trains with people and ate mud.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-39170614
Very few people fleeing the country do it via the dmz. They go through China (and get on a boat) because it's actually pretty easy for them to go to China. Trying to cross the DMZ is liable to get them shot at by troops on both sides because you really aren't supposed to cross without authorization, including southerners going north.
If "on the planet" you mean primarily the U.S and secondarily the rest of the "west" while excluding the majority of humanity on the planet, then sure.
You're so brainwashed and conditioned into believing you have more in common with some ghoul billionaire that values your life insofar as much as they can extract wealth out of you than your own fellow worker.
Obligatory comment that brainwashing is a myth rooted in orientalism and later pseudoscience, propagated by the US in order to make excuses for US soldiers defecting during the Korean War (et al).
I mean everywhere that isn't China or Russia or one of their satellites/annexes yeah.
Not sure where you got the billionaire thing, I've never defended them, in word or action. (Living in a capitalist country and needing a job for resources doesn't make me a billionaire apologist)
Liberalism and billionaire worship are not the same thing, same as communism and xi are not the same thing.
To be clear: just because xi figuratively leads a communist country doesn't mean this policy is perfectly communist.
Same thing goes for billionaires existing in a liberal society.
Lastly, the existence of either doesn't invalidate the tenets of either ideology
Xi is no different than any other billionaire shit head most of the communist party top leaders use there position to gain control over the state controlled businesses
The cia literally called him redder than red and unable to be corrupted by money lmao
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/09BEIJING3128_a.html
This is incoherent. Xi has administrative control (or influence) over state enterprises, but he isn't getting profits or stock options from them, so there are no grounds for calling him a billionaire
communist party top leaders use there position to gain control over the state controlled businesses
This is like saying you became a police commissioner to gain control over local police cars. Yeah, an explicit part of your job is that you can direct them, but the claim is so tautological that it looks like you are saying something else. It's not like Xi will retain control of these enterprises after he leaves office.
Xi first started geting so much hate from the west because he actually started purging communist party members for being too involved in the private sector. If he was encouraging the bourgeoisification of the CPC he would be hailed by the west.
Tell me you know nothing about the PRC without saying you know nothing about the PRC
Sure dude xi is such a great leader real humanitarian bro I've read more about that scumbag than you will ever know
Your right no propaganda in china from the state controlled no independent media allowed
Pray tell what "independent media" do you mean? Do you mean news corps owned by billionaires that definitely aren't biased because reasons?
if so I am bound by law to call you a fucking moron
Of course you agree on something that's bullshit about an AES
maybe within north korea
Nice whataboutism you centrist liberal tankie!!!
This is a massage board where we reply to each other see silly Billy 😜
My pronouns are right next to my username, and you still can't get them right. Real fucking classy.
Didn't know that, but my username has girl right in it, so still no excuse to assume I'm male.
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A handle does not imply gender, I've been around since early IRC and it's never been true.
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I referred to you as "y'all" when I replied directly. When I replied later I didn't even look at your name again, or remember who you were. I replied to "shimmering koi". Is that a fish person? Obviously not.
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I fucking hate tankies but I have zero issue with any gender, pronoun, sexuality, race, ethnicity, etc. If I ever had to talk to you again, I'd be fine to refer to you as whatever you want. But I wouldn't remember you because this is a anonymous social media platform and identify is meaningless.
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I forgot to block you in the first place lol
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I am pretty sure "classist" is seen as a valid insult even among radlibs, and many other people believe in equivalent terms ("elitist" is not too far off)
That's even sillier, since American parlance is definitely not universal and in most countries the colloquial meaning of "liberal" is essentially that of a market-loving centrist
Also, obviously, real-world American leftists use it too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cdqQ2BdgOA
Again, to millions and millions a "market loving centrist" is not an insult
You say "again," but that's a radically different claim from "this is an insult nowhere in the real world". Even in neoliberal states it's often an insult!
We try our best
The hexbear promise is that anti-homeless rhetoric will continue to be bullied
And it really sucks, because I agree with them (about lemmygrad and hexbear)
Quite authoritarian of them to exist without permission I must say
homeless people are tankies actually
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This is classist. Most homeless people don't suffer from addiction. Something like 40 percent are alcoholics and 25 percent use harder drugs.
A recent statewide study of homelessness in California, found that the majority of people had lost their living spaces due to rising rent.
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2023/06/425646/california-statewide-study-investigates-causes-and-impacts-homelessness
"The study found that for most of the participants, the cost of housing had simply become unsustainable. Participants reported a median monthly household income of $960 in the six months prior to their homelessness, and most believed that either rental subsidies or one-time financial help would have prevented their homelessness."
Wonder what is causing rent to rise...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNDgcjVGHIw&t=483s
I DON'T WANT TO DO IT ANYMORE! Year after year, it's been the same. Everything has gone right until it's gone wrong, and why? Because you're surrounded by dog-headed, ignorant, stupid, cowardly, unimaginative, unimaginative, a couple of IMPOTENT PIGS, a couple of small impotent porridge farmers.
according to some, i dont have enough hot potatoes in my mouth to translate danish
A different version of the same rant can be translated to:
It's the same thing every time! You have a plan, a brilliant plan! And then your surrounded by dogheads and deadbeats, lousy amateurs, miserable hacks, ridiculous shitkickers. Incompetent assholes, impotent mush peasants and social democrats!
Åh gud jeg ville betale gode penge for at se noget moderne med Egon. Desværre er Ove død, og ingen kan fylde Oves små og Egons mindre sko - Balling, Bahs og Sprogøe fik virkeligt fanget en karakter af dimensioner, og samspillet med de øvrige karakterer var på samme tid plat og eminent, især Kirsten Walther. Åh altså.
Et moderne reboot af Olsenbanden ville have en masse materiale at arbejde med. Det moderne erhvervslivs opblæste disruption-hype og finansielle fiksfakserier vil sagtens kunne skabe en ny version af Hallandsen. Den moderne Jensen vil passe perfekt ind i new public management. Og så vil der kunne være meget sjov i at lade de moderne Kjeld og Yvonne have mellemøstlig baggrund. De skal i hvert fald ikke bo i Valby længere, for det er blevet for dyrt. Måske skal den røde kuffert indeholde en harddisk med bitcoins?
Jeg kan godt forstå din entusiasme, men jeg synes efterhånden vi har set så mange reboots af ting hvor det er håndteret så ringe at det trækker ned på originalerne.
Dem der laver det er også fanget i en sump af at skulle respektere det gamle for ikke at få på puklen for det, ikke være for trendjagende, ikke at være for meget eller for lidt woke, ikke at have samme "feel" osv. Bare se de "nye" Far til Fire.
Den var også lidt en tidskapsel for det Danmark og især det København der fandtes dengang, om end i et meget statisk perspektiv. (Selv om jeg har kendt mange fra det miljø og den tid... Det er en type karakterer jeg ikke ser meget længere med mindre jeg finder et overlevende brunt værtshus eller tager på Staden)
Jeg må indrømme at jeg ikke har turdet se noget af "det nye" og ikke kan huske noget som helst af "den sidste rigtige" med de gamle drenge.
Hvis nu ham der spillede Børge ikke havde kastet sit liv i rendestenen kunne der have været et Kim af en chance for et ærligt "generationsskifte" hvor man finder nye stereotyper han kan spille op imod, evt. "hans børn" der nu ville være lige så gamle som de oprindelige bandemedlemmer.
På den anden side kan jeg da godt høre at jeg nok tager det mere alvorligt end nogen som helst i de gamle film gjorde. Jeg er bare bange for at der er nogen der kommer og besudler mindet om en serie der egentligt toppede i 1eren fordi der var nøgne damer.
Nye film må godt have nye ideer og så lade sig inspirere af gamle film.
Another great quote is made by Jensen, the burnt-out detective tasked with catching Egon and his gang. His younger and more naive colleague remarks that "crime doesn't pay" which prompts Jensen to give the following answer:
Oh God! My dear, dear young friend, you are terribly mistaken. Believe me, I've been on the force for more than 25 years, and I know what I'm talking about. Duty carries its own reward, but it's modest. Integrity is beautiful, but meager. Justice is proud, but one-eyed. Love is sweet, but costly. Friendship and camaraderie, those are good to look back on in your old age. But the only thing that pays, that's crime!
Jensen makes a lot of
remarks such as "when the really big criminals arrives the only thing the police can do is to offer them protection".
OP: "public transport is bad because homeless people use it"
Gets banned for classism
OP:
THE EVIL COMMUNISTS ARE REPRESSING ME!![6 days later]
OP (still going after 6 days): "THE EVIL TANKIE COMMIES WONT LET ME TALK ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE HOMELESS PEOPLE AND ARE POLITICALLY REPRESSING ME!!"
An illustrated history of the second half of the 20th century
Third quartile maybe
The giant emoji bug really does apply to all the funniest ones it could apply to
You shat on homeless people and got rightfully called out for it. Take the L instead of crying about tankies
Recently found an anti-tankie instance you might like more:
reddit.com
Why are the libs so hung up on criticizing socialists? If you don't like this forum then go back to reddit.
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reddit will delete this comment cuz they're controlled by China but fuck the CCP!!!
same energy
Every time one of you uses the phrase "Banned for being slightly critical", it always turns out you were saying some of the most digusting shit imaginable. It's such a tell, it's like when you say "I was ostracized just for having a different political opinion!"
spoiler
And the opinion was about who should qualify as human
Tankie is just a slur for people who aren’t ideological and financially compromised by the United Treats of America.
Found the tankie.
Honestly What bullshit.
Tankie is a slur for authoritarian communists.
There is a healthy and honest way to appreciate communism, Russia, the CCP and even DPRK.
And then there are people who are completely shilling the CCP Russia DPRK as communist uptopias. These people are tankies.
If you are unable to recoginze the atrocities commited at any point in history, by the USA China, Russia , or any other country for that Matter. You're a chump.
You all use tankie exactly the same way republicans use woke. As a meaningless thought-terminating cliche deployed against literally everyone to your left to avoid actually learning anything.
It's a vibes-based invective liberals use the same way chuds use "woke" to dispel any cognitive dissonance that might crop up whenever they discover information they find displeasing because it might mean the rest of the delusions they're immersed in might not be all that airtight. Just a thought-terminating word with absolutely no meaning. Just like "whataboutism," it's a weasel's way out of addressing someone else's argument in good faith (which I have yet to see you display in this thread).
Personally, it's absolutely fucking hilarious to see how much these words get thrown around, especially when it comes from so-called "leftists." If you truly are one, you ought to quit it with that bullshit.
If you are unable to recognize atrocity propaganda by the US and/or Nazi collaborators or evangelical wackos who believe God tasked them with destroying a country, you're a chump.
There is a healthy and honest way to appreciate communism, Russia, the CCP and even DPRK.
Please tell us more about those healthy and honest "anti-authoritarian" non-tankie communists. Who are they and what political results have they made?
Strange, I do not uncritically support any of those democracies (I assume you mean USSR when you say Russia) and I keep being called tankie.
Tankie is to liberals as woke is to right liberals and fascists.
Also it is CPC, CCP has racist connotations and also isn't what they're called.
Im actually an anarchist. I critizes everone. Including the liberalszzzzz communistss, facists, and the corrupt american imperialsts.
What a surprize this person pull his images from hexbear.
i criticize everyone therefore i am correct and enlightenedDo you have any arguments besides calling me a lib? You've done this like 15 times.
If you have such a problem with being called a tankie, its kinda hypocritical to call me a lib. Imo.
Im not a liberal. Im an anarchist. anarchist also use this term to describe the way the USSR acted toward the Anarchists of the spainish civil war.
Ah, what sort of anarchist political theory have you read?
What is the position anarchists take regarding the state, as opposed to say, socialists?
the atrocities commited at any point in history, by the USA China, Russia , or any other country for that Matter
Just another whataboutism from a liberal centrist tankie!!!
What stops China and the DPRK being utopias is resources, not the CPC or WPK. The CPC and WPK are both forces of good. (What stops Russia from being a communist utopia is that the bourgeois democracy is actively working towards creating a capitalist dystopia).
Not even authoritarian communists. Tankies defend state capitalist China all the time. Same with Russia.
Comparing yourself to Yezhov is worse than anything we've said to you
He doesn't know anything about soviet russia. Yezhov, like Berjia is one that will be never reabilitated.
Tbf Trotsky also won't be rehabilitated and I suspect OP would be happy to give us some Very Informed Takes on him as well.
Leon Trotsky (murdered in 1940) was rehabilitated on June 16, 2001 by Russia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rehabilitation_(Soviet)
What the fuck
Well, at least the Soviets never rehabilitated him. Who gives a damn what Federation liberals say . . .
By being 'slightly critical' you do mean complaining about homeless people, right?
Hmm, I wonder why they didn't include what their posts said
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imagine not being insulted by "market loving centrist"
