Why would he do this? The republicans fucked him over, what's the motivation behind this? Simply to win Georgia?
Also how will the dems react?
Sure, but he also writes off arts and museum funding as useless shit. Which is like....yikes
I called that one to my spouse as we were listening him rattle off countries. "Watch he won't say Israel"
Nah, that's the lie. It's all magic money. Tricky dick fun bux. There's no shortage of labor or materials, so any shortage of "money" is nonsense. A lie peddled by someone with an agenda.
They can act (even more) like the deficit doesn't matter, and argue the point when some austerity scold tries to bring up "but how are you going to pay for it" nonsense.
At some point, someone has to challenge the fiction that a monetary sovereign with the world's largest economy needs to budget like an ordinary household. Moving the needle on political discourse is one thing politicians can do.
I mean, very true, and it's not like there's anywhere else to take that money from...
The point is that we can and should fund arts and museums and send a meaningful wad of cash to everyone in the country. *Not to mention that a lot of the funds being sent to museums and arts programs are for paying salaries for people while those institutions cannot cover their costs themselves (thereby keeping people fed).
Nazi's used the nationalized healthcare system of Bismark to enact the T4 program to kill the mentally ill.
They paid lip service to socialist ideas like national healthcare but perverted them to their own ends.
Well, just a little example that I didn't know until recently is that right when he came to power, one of the first things he did was declare May 1st a fully paid holiday, to get workers on board with him.
Pelosi took the bait... he may actually fulfill this one, somehow
He had worse advisors than Clinton in '16, only thing i can think of. How hard is it to understand that improving material conditions gets people to vote for you! No one misunderstand, fuck Trump, but if my tax dollars are going to Raytheon and Guido either way, at least give me a little kick back.
Imagine if he told McConnell he wouldn't fill RBG's seat until $2000 checks with his name on it were delivered to every American before the election. Mitch the bitch would've caved, Trump would've won as a maverick who bucks his own party to fight for the people, and the creeping fascism of the past few years would've gotten even more popular.
As of now the person above me is negative, while two comments up from them the exact same comment has 25 likes. Lol we are in crazy cuckoo land.
Obama literally bailed out the bank that stole my family's house and we didn't get fucking anything.
Same! It was really vital that the bank got its asset back in the middle of fucking nowhere PA 40 minutes from the nearest town and 15 from the nearest neighbor. Glad Obama helped them out
Biden offered nothing though. When the checks were removed from the stimulus a few weeks ago, he got on twitter and bragged. "The government is not supposed to help you, people don't want handouts". That's Joe Biden for you. No one in their right mind truly believed he was going to pass a stimulus.
This is also on Pelosi. She sent one bill to the senate and McConnell shot it down and then she did nothing all that time. She could've been pushing bill after bill and made McConnell into the bad guy as he would've been forced to shoot them all down. Instead, she only sent one, and then Trump offered a bigger stimulus, which she turned down and got on TV and bragged to Wolf Blitzer that she turned it down cause it would help his election chances.
Biden isn't going to do jack shit as president and it will be all their fault while they try to find a way to blame it on Trump.
No one. I've been posting on here for a while and get a lot of shitty replies from people who think I am trolling or that I'm posting SocDem BS when I say that the Democrats will likely alienate everyone outside their most die hard followers and rich donor base and that Biden's presidency will be a nightmare that invokes a massive far right reactionary movement , but that is exactly what is going to happen.
Dems won't have anyone left but the K-Hive and their usual celebrity donors and billionaire oligarchs backing them by 2024. Biden will be the death of the Democratic party. They couldn't even retake the Senate with this senile old rapist ghoul. They're going to lose the house in midterms and then set the stage for someone like Tom Cotton to come out of nowhere and win 2024.
Biden’s presidency will be a nightmare that invokes a massive far right reactionary movement
Yes to a nightmare, (cautiously) no to a massive reactionary movement.
One of the main reasons Obama produced unprecedented reaction is that he was black, and Biden isn't (and apparently neither are you if you didn't vote for him!). In addition to that, Biden will try less and do less than Obama, and he won't try to give it the same progressive gloss. Biden will also stay quieter than Obama, as he did during the campaign -- he'll attract less attention and he'll get fewer fawning media pieces.
Finally, the right's base is going to fracture. The people who want an air of respectability tolerated the hooting chuds when the hooting chuds brought them a winner, but now? From the other side, chuds clearly hate political insiders and will turn against any elected Republican in a heartbeat. I don't see it lasting.
The likelihood of a massive right wing movement also has to do with it being America. Movements don't happen here. Americans don't do anything. We're docile media consumers who engage in spectacle and posting wars. The largest grassroots movement in the country right now is Qanon.
I interpreted "reactionary movement" as something closer to the Tea Party, but you're absolutely right about anything more direct. Even the anti-lockdown and Stop the Steal protests fizzled out pretty quickly.
It won't be a protest movement, but a protest party splintered from the establishment GOP.
I'm pretty sure at this point the venn diagram of Qanon voters and the Trump or die death cult is a single circle. It'll be them plus a vast populist coalition of weird antivaxxers, cosplaying libertarian tea party holdouts, and bicoastal banker bros and unemployed factory workers from Pennsylvania and Ohio, all united in their admiration of Andrew Jackson, supporting celebrity rapists in the name of anti-cancel culture, and the desire to do hate crimes against brown and Asian people in the name of protectionism while also marrying Chinese, Vietnamese and Cuban women from reactionary conservative families.
What a time to be alive.
It looks like Pelosi is also on board with the $2000 stimulus and asked for Trump to veto it and sene the bill back
Probably, it's good she immediately came out in support though. Earlier Trump seemed absent from the conversation and negotiations were between McConnel and Mnnuchin who I think didn't want new stimulus checks at all.
Nancy has done half assed performative voters so something like force the vote can be easily undermined by pointing at her useless performances
Yep. Don't get too excited. Anything of substantial value to working people will be written off as "radically left" and subsequently vetoed.
Right there with you. It's like watching a fight go down in the check out line while you're waiting to buy diapers.
Right. I'm really looking forward to people tying themselves into knots over this.
Theoretically they have enough votes to override a veto if everyone votes the same on the bill.
please, make this happen. the empire will start crumbling so fast we'll see it in real time. the rebellions this spring were already going to be lit with all the evictions but oh my god, if congress does this, the whole country will burn.
and also Bidens fault when the inevitable shit bill gets passed.
Like 2 hours after pardoning the four Blackwater ghouls charged with uh, war crimes.
Incredible.
Nah you are giving...everyone? too much credit. Biden don't care, Pelosi don't care, McConnell nods the folds of his terrapin neck with approval, and only 1% of the public, at best, vaguely knows that Blackwater isn't a body of water in the middle east.
It goes together: Solidfy populist support + Pardons for murderers who are on your side = next stage of the power grab
stop doing the shit of thinking trump has a strategy. He just does things because he feels like it.
I think Trump is an idiot criminal with a survival instinct who just happens to have a huge alt right following at his disposal, so maybe he'll feel like using them while he has the power and immunity that he doesn't want to give up, at this point why wouldn't he just go for it?
He might be doing it off some vague instinct that it will let him stay president, but that instinct is dumb and wrong and not anything to worry about.
My question is if he faces certain prosecution after leaving office for crimes we may not even know of yet, failing a military coup attempt would just give him the same punishment, except he has a chance to succeed by doing so and really has nothing to lose by trying... I'm not worried, but thats my gut feeling of what seems to be happening considering he's a textbook narcissist trying to survive, and honestly I wouldn't even mind if he tries it and takes down the system in the process, although it would be horrible for all of us it at least allows small hope for a better future of which now we have none
if he faces certain prosecution after leaving office for crimes we may not even know of yet
Highly unlikely. The dems won't do this for the same reason that mob bosses don't just call hits on each other. It would invite Republicans to prosecute them for their own corruption.
Normally I'd agree, but its likely Trump has done treasonous things we are not even aware of yet that may have to be prosecuted once discovered. At the end of the day though, you are right that he will do whatever he feels like in his position of absurd immunity and power
They simply "don't" get discovered, then. I would put like 20:1 odds of Trump getting charged with anything significant.
What a messy bitch, throwing shit out the windows like it's a bad break up.
He's been a shitty president but at least he's making politicians fucking miserable on his way out. Time to break out the popcorn! :party-parrot-popcorn:
I'm gonna miss Trump's pure unpredictability. Sure, Biden is gonna do a few dementia gaffs, but his presidency is gonna be clamped down hard by his neoliberal handlers. We won't get anything nearly as entertaining as Trump accidentally calling out Dems for failing to negotiate a better bill.
It's probably out of a narcissistic desire to have his name on a fat check for everyone in the country, but still. Call it Stockholm syndrome -- I find him genuinely interesting to watch in a way no other president has been.
Still deserves the Hague with the rest of them, of course.
Remember when he pulled out of Syria because Erdogan asked nicely over the phone
I doubt there will be another president in my lifetime where I can write a bit like this and have it be half as believable.
Just wait for whoever the republicans put up next or the VP to appeal to the Trumpian demographic. He brought a lot of people who were not involved in politics into the system. Even if the republicans run a more dignified fascist next time there will always be a Trump for the foreseeable future.
While Donald Trump didn't do anything fundamentally different than most other U.S. presidents, he just... always failed to couch it in "acceptable" political language and was just so brazen about it. He always said the quiet part loud, and honestly I'm not sure if he didn't know how, he just didn't want to, or was just incapable of it, but Donald Trump and his antics of not bothering with pretexts will always remain funny to me
Pelosi took the deal lmao https://twitter.com/SpeakerPelosi/status/1341557535732604935
What kinda fish do you have? I have a handful of those ones that glow under a blacklight; they were the only commercially available genetically modified animals for a long time, but I think that's changed
They're pretty rad, but I just love the trippy colors. Have any suggestions for colorful, natural fish? Goldfish get really big, right? I had one as a really young kid, but it didn't last long :/
Cut the military budget? What and let China and MS-13 invade and take over our beautiful, large cities?
Oh no, you can't do that, the US dollar would lose it's value. Don't you understand how bad that would be for people who've accumulated billions of them?
Folks, the bourgeois, they're no good, more and more people are saying it. All these workers, very handsome workers come up to me and say, Comrade Trump there is a specter haunting Europe, and you know what, they're right. These bourgeois are very nasty people very very rude and very unfair to the workers. They are stealing our surplus value and no one is doing anything about it. The proletariat comes up to me everyday and says, Comrade Trump will you lead the revolution? And I gotta turn to them and say, Look the instruments of capitalism will be used to bring about its destruction believe me you gotta trust me on this one. The means of production, obama never wanted to seize them. Well guess what? I'm seizing them. Landlords? They're done for folks. Everyone told me they said, Comrade Trump you won't be the vanguard of the revolution and they would laugh, the media laughed the democrats laughed, guess whose laughing now?
Folks, what we did in 1917–the Revolution we call it, with a capital R–it's never been done before. So many big beautiful red flags, you couldn't even–now that, folks, that's a flag we stand up for, we don't kneel for our terrific red flag–and you couldn't even see the Winter Palace. You know the Mensheviks, and Renegade Kautsky, they said we couldn't do it! They said, "Oh, Vlad, the material conditions are bad, we have to have a bourgeois republic to develop the forces of production." You know what that means, right? Semi-feudal economy! Well, look at where we are now, Julius. We are going to develop the forces of production so fast it'll make your head spin. We are going to do in a generation what it took them many, many years to do.
We're bringing back bread, folks! And not just bread, but peace too–and you know, the Left-SRs, they're very nasty to me about Brest-Litovsk, they say I make bad deals with the Germans, even though, nobody does treaties better than me, and the Germans are tough, but when they deal with me they know my reputation, they know I make the best deals, and you know, many people in Germany, they say they want Lenin too! Little pickelhaub man is scared, because he knows that we have built an incredible movement, and we are gonna have world revolution, the biggest revolution anyone has ever had. But, still, you know, the fake bourgeois media, the white guards, they say "He colluded with the Germans, he got on the train, did this did that"–and they're just crazed. They are really crazed. Right. And we can't just let that happen, because there's nothing to do with Germany, nothing at all. Total witch hunt. Very unfair.
(o7 to whoever preserved this by posting it on /r/copypasta. My original comment was lost with the rest of the sub)
I hope he vetoes the bill, the current bill is nothing but giving billions more to the military while common Americans get scraps
President Trump is gonna give out more money than Biden lol. What a world.
