We did it, folks. It only took four days. Our posting energy is just too powerful.
I can't imagine the combination of life choices I would need to make in order to give a shit about this turn of events.
“Crowned heads, wealth and privilege may well tremble should ever again the Black and Red unite!"
It was probably never said, at least exactly like that by Bismarck, but it was a common sentiment of relief by the ruling class.
It was an earlier Reddit exodus platform created after leftwithsharpedge was banned. Never caught on though. Was also explicitly anarchist sectarian.
What is raddle.me ?
Edit: Ah, internet leftist drama, what would we do without it. Another site from where steal shit and post it here, hope they are funny.
It was probably the closest link aggregator to filling the niche we were looking for, but the leadership is pretty sectarian. It is an online community where only anarchists can be cops. We might have landed there instead of setting up our own platform if we thought it wouldn't impact our autonomy.
Literally had one try to sell me on the idea that a mod banning someone is not a use of authority. There are a lot of good things about anarchism but that ain't it chief
Technically true but banning someone from a niche forum is a far cry from depriving someone of their liberty/autonomy IRL.
Considering it. I never meant for that account to become my main in the first place, anyway, it just sorta happened.
Well sure, but note that "depriving someone of their liberty/autonomy IRL" is not the only form of authority. Your boss has authority over you, and they can abuse that authority in all sorts of ways that don't amount to deprivations of liberty or autonomy.
Besides, the "how do we police online communities" question is a clear analogue to the "how do we police IRL communities" question. Fundamentally you're talking about what behavior is acceptable, who decides what's acceptable, and how the community responds to unacceptable behavior. If you can't even run an online community without having an unelected person unilaterally banishing people over vague, changing rules that aren't up for a vote, how are you supposed to run a real community without any form of authority?
The simple answer to all this is that while authority should have to justify its existence, if its existence is justifiable then that authority is allowed. This is still a fundamentally anti-authority position; it's just not dogmatic about it. It's like the difference between strict pacifism vs. opposing violence except as a last resort.
Extremely insular post-left nihilist anarchists who call ancoms imperialists.
post-left nihilist anarchists
No wonder the anarchist room in the discord tried to get me to join it.
Fuck this doomer shit. Anarchy is about getting stuff done.
Speaking as a doomer, drop out of life with bong in hand; follow the smoke to the riff-filled land.
We need our own community here for doomer anarchist bong rips, it's the only thing fueling my insurrection at this point
ever notice that the two big stoner metal albums both have dope in the name?
I thought they were post-Bakuninist hyperhistamines?
The original joke was "hypersemites" but I haven't had a chance to read the room yet.
A site where the owner is a hyper sectarian post left anarchist who has been constantly shitting on Lemmy for the past month
red fascism is when your revolution succeeds for any period of time
Time to invent an even more esoteric anarchist tendency to identify with and split from all existing ones.
Anarcho-Trotskyism
Red fascism is when you defeat literal fascism, then throw capitalists and reactionaries in jail so you can improve the material conditions of workers without sabotage.
red fascism is when capitalists are sad bc the meanie tankies didn't let them counter revolution :(
I had no doubt that Chapo.chat would swiftly surpass that pile of *****
I visited raddle's attempt at a chapo community, but the mods were assholes (perm bans for speech violations) and the community quickly collapsed, deleted my account and decided to wait in the discord and see what came of the whole lemmy thing.
I couldn't get past the fact they had the hosts photograph on the sidebar.
.. but if there are any raddle emmigrants lurking, you're welcome here just don't be a giant douche all the time :)
truly you’re a victim by choosing not to stop using speech like idiot or moron
If you're going to try to get people to stop using words they've used for decades without issue, you need to explain why. It's not enough to just tell people it's wrong and then ban them for it. Plus, they'd ban people with no opportunity to appeal and then still claim to be against authority in all forms. It combined the worst form of language policing with the sloppiest type of anarchist philosophy. It'd be hard to do a better job blowing up a promising leftist space if they tried.
I only saw one instance of a mod banning someone for hate speech. In that instance the mod posted a link which I thought did a good job of explaining the why. The poster then replied with something that showed that they clearly hadn't read any of the link and were just whining about rules.
Not to say that people weren't getting banned without explanation, but I think the raddle team has a decent answer to the why.
They explained why sometimes, but not consistently. And they were awfully quick with bans for a community that claims to be against all forms of authority whatsoever.
Yeah that's fair, I wasn't a huge fan of the moderation there either. I did like their explanation for discouraging slurs that most people say without thinking about it, but I wish they weren't so authoritarian about it.
Which means their line about opposing authority in all forms, even online, was bullshit. They either didn't honestly believe it or didn't think through the implications.
A much more honest and consistent approach is to say "yeah, we're going to ban trolls and bad-faith actors, and yeah, that's a use of authority, but because you can't run any sort of worthwhile online space without something like that (at least not today) we're going to do that and do it in the most open, accountable way possible."
Ehhh I see plenty of people who post tons who don't qualify as trolls or bad-faith actors. There's more to either of those than having running arguments.
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I really wanted to like Raddle when it started, but the community/mods were kind of assholes and cliquey. They deserve their ghosttown.
Edit: Also fuck them with their use of "anarcho-bootlickers", I'm getting fucking tired of sectarianism
there was (and is) and absolutely insane amount of sockpuppeting and harassment from the mods as well. they messaged me hundreds and hundreds of times from a fresh alt account and smugly implied it was a comrade of theirs, just let it keep going and going. pretty much the only interaction I had
I honestly like Postmill way better than Lemmy, but that place will never grow because of their garbage moderation policy. Chapo has to be an anarchist community and also the word cuck is racist
They censor a ton of words here too, I keep seeing "removed" in comments.
most I've seen is "removed by user", or heavily downvoted posts being removed which I assume it's something that had a good reason to be removed. But you're right, moderation could be more transparent and tell why something got removed.
Stardew Valley
Scunthorpe
All Cops Are Bastardsedit:Holy shit they fixed it
Did you improve the regex or just remove that word from it? Regex gets a lot of hate but I like it.
nice, maybe there could be a link to the entry in the modlog in the removed comment
The slang usage of the word does have some racist baggage with it. Not to say that necessarily justifies a ban, or to say it shouldn't be used or reclaimed (though one could argue that it's also sexist)
“Cuck,” as an abbreviation of the archaic word cuckold was popularized by racist misogynists who were against, take your pick, a black president, the possibility of a female president, or politically correct culture for no other critical reason beyond being afraid of these things stepping on their fascist toes.
Before that it was archaic in exactly the same way as words like “ejaculate” or “intercourse” are–only used to explicitly talk about the sex acts they were originally euphemisms for.
By definition cuck has all kinds of baggage to it. But all of that baggage is on the part of the idiot who would non-ironically use it. I can’t think of another slur that so exquisitely reveals the psychosexual insecurity of the kind of person who would wield it, while at the same time having absolutely no power of any kind over the word’s intended audience.
True, the point is not that the word is good, but that banning it site-wide with little to no explanation tells you a lot about who runs Raddle and what their priorities are.
Postmill itself is a cool project and I have a lot of respect for anyone who can put together something like that.
Yeah, it's really impressive. I initially thought we should have gone to Raddle mostly because of it, also all the Lemmy instances looked really bad. I still don't know why the chapo.chat devs didn't want to use Postmill.
It's also kind of hilarious that cumtown.org uses Postmill
The era of 2ch-style image boards is long over, and even the big ones aren't that big anymore.
I checked them out a few times but holy fuck just kill me fam, I'd rather log off permanently.
Let's be real, we had the power of discord on our site. When the sub was banned, the discord took most of the refugees.
We're still missing around 140,000 accounts but yeah most :)
