Greetings gamers and those who wisely abstain,
It has become clear to us that even in the short while we’ve federated, the situation with sh.itholefor.nazis is entirely untenable and we will be defederating immediately. Multiple instances of ableist and homophobic slurs directed at our users, overwhelming litigiousness against even the most innocuous comments by our users, and just a general ethos of reactionary behavior. We’re done and out.
One of the concerns with embracing TC69 thought on site bans with federation is that the user would basically be just hexbear-side hidden and blocked from our comms, free to post reactionary content without the fear of Lenin behind them. That was a silly concern. We will resume our pre-federation policies regarding site bans.
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Mmmm interesting Canadian instances are dropping like flies.
If only someone could have warned us.
@WhyEssEff@hexbear.net do you know where the salute you use all the time and this emoji came from ? Is there more?
I know all those... why did my brain not connect them to the other two ? Lol
I want to re-iterate that during lemmy.ca's discussion of defederation towards hexbear two of the most influential voices were that of an active US soldier (who slandered hexbear) and that of a cop/narc/jailer for the Canadian state. Something that was completely ignored outside of hexbear.
There weren't many active voices (comments) to begin with in that discussions and yet those two got plenty of points.
two of the most influential voices were that of an active US soldier (who slandered hexbear) and that of a cop/narc/jailer for the Canadian state.
who, and how do we know that about those people?
They did write it in their profiles and associated links and did talk consistent with it for month before:
https://hexbear.net/comment/3740815
https://hexbear.net/comment/3733838
They also had a guy use nazi dogwhistles be the second highest comment.
I'm sadly not surprised. The level of political, economic, and historical education up here is abysmal.
I know. I know, they really... really are the best... they are, yeah.
im a little sad there are legitimately some good posters on programmg.dev (no it does not make up for the chuds), hope they find their way onto hexbear/LG or some other good instance like lemmy.ml
Yea programming.dev hasn't been that bad since I assume any reactionaries learned to shut up
Glad you kept lemm.ee they might be libs, but some, I assume, are good people
Maybe I missed it but what did .Dev do? They seemed like run of the mill techbro^tm
I'm going to out myself as someone who thought that the funny dunks would be funny and cool, but hearing the concerns of other users here about abusive behavior I'm doing a self crit and saying that I was wrong.
Self crit is actually ruzzian disinformation and a whataboutism. Sorry, I don't make the rules(-based international order).
@kleeon@hexbear.net
I think you might've gotten a new phrase to add to the bot
I understand. Do three Hail Clintons and all your sins will be forgiven when Her Blessed Turn finally arrives.
I was ambivalent about it "How bad can one more instance of chuds be?" but it's definitely upped the anxiety I used to get from :reddit-logo: of constantly arguing with people.
The main difference is that this was probably the most reactionary instance we had federated thus far.
that place is much smaller and they don't post nearly as much. also, they don't DM nasty shit to vulnerable people. but yes, the pure concentrated hacker news energy emanating from that place is odious.
The difference was probably that this instances mods were also transphobbic bigoted debatelords
It's the fundamental tension between being a safe space and an offensive space.
I was honestly the same
god those people were like twitter chuds
Me too. I have been maybe too conciliatory and forgiving of the stuff these reddit-brained users from other instances can do and say.
When I first joined Lemmy, I started on their server. I warned them about becoming the Nazi bar, and left. My hope was that we could bring over any remaining cool people and leave all the chuds behind, but it seems that it has already become nothing but a wasteland of chuds. What a shame.
They won't forget us, and all the talk they'll probably be doing for months about us will be free advertising for the curious and marginalized.
To any refugees from that place who are here in good faith, welcome aboard
the talk they'll probably be doing for months about us will be free advertising for the curious and marginalized.
As it was then, so it is now
Finally, now that we have federated, we can perform the most important work of communism: cutting ties with other organizations
This was inevitable once the mods over there made it clear that they weren’t going to do their jobs. Good riddance.
The moment I saw one of their admins complain about anti-white racism I knew it was never going to work.
They deleted my reply that said something like "We'll keep posting until you respect your Trans comrades" lmao.
this is Hexbears Soviet-Afghan War
sorry, been listening to Blowback se4
Nah we were pretty quick to realize our mistake so I think we'll be fine. We're just built different. Sorry USSR
Brezhnev, his eyebrows furrowed. Gorbachev, his pizza cold. Bin Laden, when the Mi-8 and Mi-24 helicopters fell.
Riffing on Trek (TNG S05E02: Darmok) with references to the Soviet-Afghan war.
To this day, my favorite t-shirt is my Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra ‘91 concert shirt.
Hereby I present u/Findom_DeLuise the
for advanced popular media posting.
If there's ever a HexbearCon, there should be a rule where any attending admin must wear Brezhnev-style artificial eyebrows for the duration of the event, footwear that can be quickly removed from their feet for the purposes of table-banging, and a belt into which a giant spoon is held in a scabbard.
My eyebrows seem to be about 40 years ahead of the rest of my body where do I apply.
I supported federation, and now I support defederating. I don't think it was a mistake to try, and dunking was fun. But a lot of them, including mods need reeducation or the wall.
Arguing with them reminded me of arguing with people in Facebook comment sections tbh
I find the Hexbear use of weird images scary and disturbing.
Don't forget to smash that bell, and like and share!
Oh shit oh fuck I just did a brigading by sharing noooooo—
It's a racist Nazi shithole filled with propaganda-brained liberals
Shits pretty funny to dunk on but yeah I don't blame you for defedding
Shouldn't feel sorry about voting yes.
Any immune system needs something to fight against to make sure its working every so often.
Genuinely, thank you for your service comrade. We've some incredible posters amogus
beehaw.orglemmy.worldlemmy.calemmy.blahaj.zonesh.itjust.worksprogramming.devlemdit.comMore to the list.
Didn't a German and furry instance also defed from us? I really want a master list lol
Yeah, pawb.social (furry instance) defederated from us. We didn't even have issues, I think it was preemptive :(
Some of their users were big time libs, and one of their admins got tired of being dunked on
https://defed.xyz/check/hexbear.net
This
wasis a tool weusedcan use to check on this.I'm not sure if it's in working order right now as it gives me a 500 internal error.Hold onto it, just in case.
Edit: It works, just had to remove the "=" from the end of the URL.
Oh thank fucking God I'm not the only one who always reads that name as "slurpnik" for some unknown reason
Truly, we are seeing the formation of the Neon Genesis Iron Curtain!
'Tis a terrible shame that we can't just, like, make a second account on a defederated instance, and then use an app such as Liftoff for Lemmy to combine that account's feed with our Hexbear account's feed... Lo, verily all this defederation is condemning us to a lonely fate, isolated in the fediverse. Alas!
Yeah, I don't understand why people are acting like it's impossible to have or manage two accounts. If you want to fight the posting wars, you can just do that, it's not some impossible task to achieve simply because we're not actively federated with and polluting our own communities with lib shit.
Like, what's the thought process there, is it a desire to conscript the entire site to be some sort of online revolutionary guard, policing the fediverse and somehow magically infiltrating and taking over other instances?
I think they 'preemptively defederated' us? Unless that was .world, idk the lore runs too deep
whataboutism 
, Queen.
