Being such a patriarchal chud that you lose 4chan to the woke mind virus
Watching 4chan losers preach harm reduction and lesser evilism is really funny
Remember the incels and the NEETs did lots of propaganda the first time around and it had a bigger effect that they ever thought it could.
Remember how everyone on earth now thinks that Pepe the Frog was created to be a racist dog whistle when the reality is that he was stolen from a webcomic to make relatable memes?
Yeah the 4chan chuds have more power than you’d like to believe, unfortunately. On the other hand, it’s be just delicious if Trump lost them this time around 🤣 you love to see it
he was stolen from a webcomic to make relatable memes?
feels bad man
I don't get it, the filth spewing out of JD's mouth isn't significantly that different from the fascist diarrhea you typically find on any right-wing site/forum
What happened did the fascism become a little too real for them? They can't comfortably worldbuild their abstract evil societies from the safety of their suburban basements, is that what's eating them?
Poor babies the larp is not fun anymore, it's too weeeeird now
I don't get it, the filth spewing out of JD's mouth isn't significantly that different from the fascist diarrhea you typically find on any right-wing site/forum
Keep in mind that fascists do not operate on logic, but vibes. As Marxists, we are used to taking things apart methodically, to criticize ideology, to see behind the plattitudes and expose relations of property and how they translate into political power that dialectically ties into the ruling ideology. Fash don't do that. They want the exact opposite of this scientific understanding, they want to go back to a world ruled by mythology. The entire fascist ideological framework runs on a deliberate rejection of materialism, analysis, a structural and systemic understanding of issues and a self-blinding to facts (climate change, covid, the glaring failure of neoliberal shock treatment etc.). What it delivers instead is gut feeling, the rage at the wokies, the rush of raw power and sanctified violence, the comfort of 1950s postcard kitsch. What he says doesn't matter, he has to say it in a way that pulls their strings. When he doesn't pass the vibes check, it is irrelevant if he had the exact same talking points as them. When he comes across as a cringy weirdo who can't hit the right notes with his audience, that's all that matters.
This is right on target. He's not saying anything Trump hasn't said (or implied), but he's no Trump. This is the same problem
ran into. They want someone that projects power and confidence, as well as acts as a surrogate on which they can project their own dark desires about how the world should be.Trump can be all these things because he has a carefully crafted image of being super wealthy, but also (and more importantly) he's charismatic, funny, and speaks in what basically amount to parables. He very rarely comes right out and says things like "we're going to give bonus votes to people with kids." He might hint at that, or convey the same message through some kind of elliptical digression about some random topic, but he doesn't state things clearly and plainly most of the time. He jokes, teases, and plays the crowd. His rhetoric is open to interpretation, which both lets them project their own ideas onto him but also insist that he didn't really mean whatever his opponent took him to mean. With DeSantis or Vance, all that humor and rhetorical fogginess is gone, and the fascist project is laid bare. That's boring and off-putting--even to many of them who actually agree with the project--because what attracts them isn't a set of policy goals, but rather a particular image of what could be: a vibe.
There are obviously exceptions to this (people who are the Hilary Clintons of the far right and are in it for the technocratic minutiae of implementing fascism), but they're much smaller as a group than the collection of people who want to be caught up in the religious ecstasy of MAGA rallies, and will change the channel when that turns into the nitty gritty of policy. Remember that politics is fundamentally boring to most normal people. In Trump, they're getting something less like politics and more like a sermon, comedy act, and sports rally all rolled into one. So far, they haven't found anyone else able to bridge that gap.
They thought the “state-provided aryan tradwife brides for loyal movement members” stage would come before the “punishing people who are not conforming to the regressive heteronormative lifestyle” stage.
Yeah they never thought fashie would come for them. They haven't figured out "christofash" is just another mask the fash put on to get useful idiots on their side. I wonder if any of these chuds got the noodles to figure that out before their usefulness is over
Hmm i should read more on their dynamic. Did they start together and split at some point or rise separately? What should i search of i wanna read more
“The fascist movement will subjugate the lessers and elevate the ubermensches,”
“Good thing I’m one of the ubermensches, right?”
“Right?”
It’s been most of two decades since I visited 4chan. I remember there used to be a kind of “get fit and fuck bitches” variant of inceldom that ironically enough would blue pill the incels into becoming normal possibly even well adjusted people by covertly awakening them to the reality that if they just put in just a little effort and exit their caves then society stops treating them like vermin.
Is that still a thing?
No now you get this “the height of your ears must be in a perfect 3.251:1 ratio to the height of your nose or else no female will sleep with you” inceldom. It’s a biological determinism where if you weren’t born with the one perfect set of genes, you’re undesirable.
Contrapoints has a good video where she argues that the incel community is basically a deathcult.
https://youtu.be/fD2briZ6fB0?si=7HSJUgmclokQENxH
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
"normal, well adjusted"
treats depressed, unemployed people like vermin
God bless america!Worse, doing anything that would make women actually like you is beta behavior.
Why don't they gay-marry other 4chan incels and adopt children?
[Please no, at least the last part]
Cause jd isn't charismatic doing it That's really all there is to it
I could be wrong here so I welcome corrections but I feel like this shaming for not wanting children is directed almost entirely towards women.
Completely proactive out-of-nowhere shaming, yeah, for sure. But guys get it too, just as frequently, if it comes up in conversation.
I sort of get what you mean. If a man says that he does not want to have children it gets inconsiderate reactions. But in a patriarchal setting women bear most of the brunt of child birthing and rearing. Men are expected to, I don't know how to phrase it, do the work that is allegedly societally important while the mothers stay at home and look after the children and the home. Deranged republicans abhor the fact that women have the autonomy to reject this sort of setting which is where the shaming stems from. In my opinion.
Let me know if I am being unclear. I haven't talked about this topic before so I don't know how to articulate my thoughts well.
What you're saying is entirely correct. But the simple fact of the matter is that men are not having children either. Consider the welfare queens discourse. It's mysoginistic (why not welfare bums?) but it's also aimed at anyone 'not doing their part' by getting a job, paying taxes and so on. This allows everyone from the rural poor to the suburban middle class to see themselves as Not Freeloaders®, and potentially soldier for conservative policies.
The demographic transition is not like that at all. Nobody is having kids. What tradmorons don't realize is that this isn't ideological. It's not because of Feminism. It's not because of the lower importance of religion. It's not a lack of patriotism. People have lots of kids when it is in their interest to do so. Having lots of kids is everyone's economic strategy in an agrarian, pre industrial society. The same applies to industrial economies characterized by low living standards and dominated by substandard jobs. The US is neither of these things. It has high living standards, it doesn't need extra farmhands or kids to hold onto land, and it's people (middle class and below) aren't hoping that their 3 kids help the family's income by dropping out of school and getting into the gig economy.
Seriously it takes two to tango and only the wealthy weirdoes cloning themselves for organ replacement think otherwise.
the shame is but I think there's a clip of Vance arguing that parents (read men) should be able to cast their children's' votes in trust until they are adults and that this should start at birth for reasons unclear
The idea is basically you have no children, you get one vote. I have two children, I get three votes.
Minorities that they assume to have multiple times more kids than whites enter the chat.
JD: NOOOOOOO not like that! They don't count!
Imagine fighting in court with your coparent to see who gets the rights to cast your kids’ votes. Or like an amicable handshake agreement to alternate voting rights every other election.
wut? the man would cast these votes obviously, there's no argument to be had.
Imagining 2 lesbians going to court and the judge being like, “so which one of you is the man?”
in this timeline, the judge would tell them to go away and send their husbands or fathers or brothers in
This is a very strange confluence of capital D democracy and... I don't really know what it is.
That people with children should have their votes worth more.
They have an entirely functional immune system for attacks on men for not wanting children. Think of the way we might react if someone tells us to vote for the lesser of two evils. You get all sorts of
vitriol
women have tattoos and are promiscuous, third world women are more caring, the social contract has been broken because they don't get laid and therefore they have no stake, they can't decide whether the powers that be (see: jews) want you to do backbreaking work or want you to be docile so you can be replaced with brown people but either way they're upset.
in response. They sharpen their axes and practice for such accusations for fun. A news article about unmarried women complaining because of jobless men playing video games is like catnip[1]. One might think that they believe it's funny when women are immature too because there's plenty of humor out there about it, but you'll stumble onto their misogyny complex instead. One might want to find common ground because you and they want America to fail, but the similarities really end there; misogyny is a really big, centralizing, and defining wedge.
[1] I'll never forget one time I posted on 4chan an entirely crafted, artificial news article on the topic with an inflammatory title to that effect. Maybe 3 of the 70+ responses were asking for the article with one person correctly deducing it was fake. I'll never forget the guy who went "as you get older, you start to realize what's bullshit and what's real" after a paragraph about how journos are snakes.
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You do get tax credits if you have kids so this is kind of already the case.
Surprise surprise the nazis want to support the candidate that arms and funds international fascism
more and more people are saying it folks, the anglo brainpan is simply disadvantaged when it comes to babymaking and the associated requisite skills
Honestly I wasn't expecting Vance to be THIS much of a weirdo, these people truly can't help themselves.
Whoever decided "yeah let's put this fucking freak in the national spotlight" truly has the biggest brains on the planet
Maybe. There's a lot of different types of people that use 4chan. Some of them are irredeemable, sure. Some are just disaffected people who've fallen through the cracks of society, yet are ripe for leftist radicalization, only needing to be exposed to the right ideas and have a push in the right direction. Although few would admit it, I would bet that many who identify with the "dirtbag left" now, were channers at some point in their lives.
Lmao. It would be hilarious if JD Vance's breeder fetish ends up sinking the trump campaign
My second favorite horseshit that a republican has said.
My first favorite is Mark Robinson who was recorded saying "Abortion in this country is not about protecting the lives of mothers. It is about killing the child because you weren’t responsible enough to keep your skirt down
All they have to do is keep talking and this going to be an easy win for the democrats
All they have to do is keep talking and this going to be an easy win for the democrats
Democrats still have to offer something. Republicans have been saying loony shit forever.
"This isn't rocket science here." -- Tom Daschle, U.S. senator from South Dakota, denouncing spending on space-based missile defense
"If the King's English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me." -- Miriam "Ma" Ferguson, Texas governor
He promised a lot, including a $2000 covid check (of which he delivered $1400). And he barely scraped by one of the weakest incumbents in modern history. You're not dead in the water with a "let them just say weird shit" strategy, it's just not a very good one.
The covid factor really can't be understated, too. Hard to draw any firm conclusions from 2020 due to that.
All they have to do is keep talking and this going to be an easy win for the democrats
People say this every election cycle and I think its demonstrably false by now
All they have to do is keep talking and this going to be an easy win for the democrats
This is the exact opposite of what the Democrats need to do to win and is a huge factor in why Hillary got BTFO in 2016
Turns out you can't just sit back and let your opponent control the messaging on the off chance they say something that turns off a swing voter once in a while
Many folks are saying it, this is a race to the bottom
