Just wanted to share a thread for those who don't regularly venture out of the bear site. Can't cross-post since it's defederated. It's small but has some numbers about community counts, active users, etc and links to more info from https://lemmyverse.net/. Thought it was notable that Hexbear shows up no matter how you sort it.
OP image is community count sorted by active users in the last month.
Edit: sorted by comments
They're here because they couldn't handle reddit anymore. We're here because reddit couldn't handle us anymore.
Also they couldn't handle reddit anymore so they came here and immediatly started trying to recreate reddit.
They hate Reddit because Spez and Great Man Theory, not because of the actual structure and profit motive.
Also they hate reddit because of capitalism but don't realize that and consider themselves capitalists.
"I hate how this website has gone to shit, injected adds into everything, and censored everything that isn't squarely within the Overton window.
Time to pack up and go to a website coded and maintened by literal communists and call everybody who thinks the democrats suck tankies."
Yep, mentioning Marx becomes a struggle sesh. They are ultras when it comes to leftism, and right wingers when it comes to the US.
Classic liberal self importance.
"Everybody else should fight a revolution in the exact way I have deemed appropriate."
Worse.
"Every successful revolution is evil, every failed one noble and pure."
Except the color revolutions destroying the USSR, those were wholesome and pure
Isn't that why they're just copying everything, re-writing it can calling it sublinks?
why learn rust when everyone knows and totally loves java?
My favorite part is them asking for Go language writers cause I think it ended up being mostly done in go. At least was major % of their repo last I looked
By embracing BBS Forum Web 1.0 thought we continue to frustrate The Reddit Reconstructionists. I've lived in the late 90s through mid 2000s online and can say, it took the concerted effort of MySpace Brian, the Facebook Android, whoever sold Twitter to Elon Musk and a whole hell of a lot of money being intentionally poured in to defeat the force that was enteenched in the internet, it can be rebuilt and they don't have the sauce to do it again, let alone reddit wannabes. Like a tree planted on water.
mfw thousands of internet strangers across multiple platforms spend their days complaining about me and 200 other gay communists
It isn’t big though. They just get kicked out of everywhere else they go for being disruptive assholes, so for every community there’s a hexbear duplicate
Duplicate with half the posts and a third of comments.
All of which are super politically charged
I like their indignity about politics being brought up ever, using that as an insult and mic drop like it wins the argument instantly. Such lib coworker ass energy.
They are bots and cheaters
no they are just a large instance
nut uh it’s all just politics
???
It’s so cute that they think their impotent whining is deserving of any consideration at all
disruptive assholes
I'm willing to bet most of us don't interact with most of who we're federated with. I know 99% of the time I don't leave Hexbear.
Rent free as usual.
Half the thread is "I have never interacted with Hexbear but they are literally the worst instance and I'm so surprised they exist"
The funniest part of that is all the people who think we're a bunch of uneducated kids who base our opinions on nothing, while fully admitting they have never interacted with us at all. Yes I see. Tell me more about making opinions on something you know nothing about
yeah the accusations that we were born after 9/11 just do not hit, all reddit-styled forums (especially the fediverse) are skewed toward olds
CTH is famously an elder millennial fanbase too. Average Chapo fan age is certainly higher than the average Reddit user age
I remember the thread where we just posted Bush-era image macros. It's just the continuation of Something Awful - Twitter - here.
I think the average HB user could speak conversational 1337sp34k if asked by historians trying to restore that dead language.
"Finally, someone that can finally translate this ancient document!"
It's just the ASCII art header for a gamefaqs guide from 1998.
"...and this, what does this mean? Our best scholars are unable to decipher it. Is it a code? a hieroglyph? Or a heretofore unknown related language? We have deciphered the text below as referring to "soi", is it about a bountiful harvest? A precursor to the Soy "Jack"?"
"Hmm. Yes, I believe this is what the people at the time refer to as a "Roflcopter". The caption "my roflcopter goes soi soi soi" does not refer to the soy plant nor the soyjack, but an onomatopoeia of a helicopter, a now defunct method of air travel with an abnormally high fatality rate"
I didn't post on r/CTH but my political journey / "radicalisation" was based on joining the workforce in the aftermath of the 2008 crash and then losing my safety net just before covid and the employment hellscape that came after.
I've been through enough to know a decent amount of luck and privilege was the only thing keeping me off the streets, and I get a similar vibe from a LOT of the posters here. The idea this place is full of teenagers is absurd.
I think most r/CTH users originally came from Twitter and they made a reddit account specifically for that subreddit. The culture of the subreddit was so different than the rest of reddit and it was evident this was older Something Awful types or enlightened 4chaners who had seen the error of their ways. There was blatant contempt for the "Reddiquette" and frequent brigades, and in general just contempt for all of the rest of Reddit.
That's why they quickly became the new SJW, the new SRS of the site. The gamers and gooners and nu atheists and software engineers and funkopop collectors and the_donald users and the r/politics users all were able to unite against a common scapegoat, and the feeling was mutual. There was always the feeling a ban was inevitable, and the mods of the subreddit had to keep being recycled being they were being pressured hard by the admins to delete tons of stuff, and they didn't want to and kept getting ousted. Then the next group would come in and pretend to for a bit then stop lmao.
They say that because we post like zoomers and gen-a (not really we just aren't baffled by their memes).
In the vein of "only a Chinese or Russian person could be disagreeing with me right now about China or Russia" comes the new "only one of those dang kids today could be disagreeing with me right now about how kids today suck."
My favorite thing is them believing that everyone from Russia or China must have hated it there, and while there are some expats that are like that, most of the ones I've met (outside of Indians) really like or miss their country of origin. I'm not saying they are perfect (far from it) but they seem like no more totalitarian hellholes than the U.S.
Also you are talking to ex pats and emigrants who are predisposed to disliking their home country.
All the Chinese people who really like China stay there and don’t go on the English speaking internet to argue
TBH I know a number that sneak through the firewall to troll westerners, they're pretty cool. Some don't want to visit here tho cause the firewall blocks this domain. Maybe if someone reopens chapo chat and puts a Chinese interface on it we'd get a lot like that
I know some trans Chinese commies too
An infusion of Chinese shitposters would definitely be a nice boost to our posting powers
Importing Gojo-tier shitposters to change the very world of political shitposting
Maybe if someone reopens chapo chat and puts a Chinese interface on it we'd get a lot like that
This would be pretty easy I think, seeing as we already have next.hexbear.net
Yea some people were trying to change the next domain to something like next.chapo.chat for the chinese users but it still needs some work
(not really we just aren't baffled by their memes)
I’m a zoomer though what abt me :,’,(
BEGONE CHILD! Let the old gays, trans-femmes and occasional cis white guys post in peace!
Sidenote; Also zoomers are literally starting to graduate college rn, so still young but not like, 14 year old teenager young, the real big thing is that we, unlike .world or .trek, are not, for the most part, tech people. And if we are, we are usually tech-pessimists. Creates a huge posting culture difference.
the real big thing is that we, unlike .world or .trek, are not, for the most part, tech people
Exactly why I can’t get into the rest of the fediverse that well
Let the old gays, trans-femmes and occasional cis white guys post in peace
I’m the only person brushing the cobwebs under your chins out, show some respect smh my head :(
Yep they have a lot of techno-optimists and techno-utopians and neoliberal “everything is getting better in aggregate” types
How the fuck do they sell that lie to themselves the entire discussion around isreal Palestine was basically "Jesus christ I haven't seen liberals this bloodthirsty to kill innocent brown people since 2001"
Were also the only people that seem to rember that reoublican presidents were fascists before 2016.
I would assume most Hexbears are at least in their mid 20s, if not early 30s. I know we even have some older folks. Hexbear is many things, but a community of edgy teens is not one of them.
Not that I have an account on Hexbear, but I spend a lot of time here (and enjoy it). I'm mid-forties, college degree, well-traveled (mostly North America, Europe and Asia). I have only grown more frustrated with liberals the older I get.
Consider making an account here. I used to be on .ml, found myself spending most of my time here, and made an account. You can split time, or just stay here.
Personally, I enjoy my time here much more.
I've considered it. I don't really want to have multiple accounts, and for better or for worse, .ml is still more broadly federated.
That's fair! I do consider the benefits of not having constant struggle sessions like on .ml to outweigh a decrease in content. If the best content and comrades are federated with Hexbear, and the worst aren't, the good posts we lose are worth the tradeoff for me.
Helps keep your mind healthier too, I'm sure, not having to see the kind of garbage posted every 10 minutes on .world.
Yep, my thoughts exactly. Do what you want to, of course, but just want to put it out there that I was in your shoes and don't regret jumping. I still check in on .ml every once in a while, but I don't spend all my time fighting libs in the trenches anymore.
I feel like I'm generally one of the older people here, but also there's no way to tell so...
Im baby. You don't know any better.
We may be one of the few chronically online forum communities that isn't made up primarily of either teenagers, tech-bros or retirees.
Hexbear is many things, but a community of edgy teens is not one of them.
Disgruntled 30-somethings are a force to be reckoned with
Time marches on, it's been 10 years since the subreddit went down, we're all big boys now
That's what happens when you defed, you don't actually see what's behind Lemmy.world's Iron Dome and vibes become myths become "facts."
Same happened after CTH got banned. Tons of lies and myths instantly started cropping up about the devilish things that were once posted on CTH but could no longer be accessed. Everyone who hated Chapo was free to just make shit up and everyone believed it
did you know that Hexbears worship TransComrade69 as a goddess and sincerely believe she does not poop?
I heard the SeventyTwoTrillion takes people with rational Liberal common sense to a stadium full of tankies and shoots them with an anti-aircraft gun
We are all just “trolls”
Like they think we are over here just pretending to be communists or what? Do they think we don’t hold the positions we talk about?
Legitimately, yes. They can never explain why we recommend Theory and meme about it, except the ones who think we are wreckers (somehow even amongst ourselves).
How could Hexbear be communist if we don't guzzle propaganda from the most communist nation that has ever existed; The United States of America?
We are more well read than just about every single frothing liberal and chud lemmitor. Not that that’s a high bar to clear or anything.
I've said it before and I'll say it again - reading one piece of leftist theory makes you more politically educated than like 90% of Americans.
Bit sad innit
reading one piece
of leftist theorymakes you more politically educated than like 90% of Americans.
Damn I’m shocked how small hexbear is, if I’d had to guess I woulda thought you guys were like 30% of the fediverse. How does 98% of the shitposting and best reaction gifs come from 2% of the user base? Touch grass sometimes, damn lmao
this whole site is a five year plan to develop productive forces for protracted people's posting
Having an established userbase and actual community beyond the frame of "not reddit" will do that. Other instances are free to develop their own niches, Hexbear has just had a 4 year headstart on all of the Reddit refugees.
It's cause this community is only one of very few on the Internet so there's more concentrated time if we want this particular environment
Whereas the user base and culture of most other Lemmy instances can be found in many places
Yeah if you are a lemmy.world user you are probably still spending most your time on Reddit. Very normie tastes and Reddit has better cat gifs
Given how many of them seem to complain about hexbear emotes, its almost like they see the emotes as a negative.
And then... and then.... THEY SENT ME A PIG POOPING ON ITS BALLS
incoherent sobbing
This has gotta be by sub count not posts or comments.
Same thing would happen on reddit when they'd post graphs of most "active" subredidts and people would be confused about why 2000 people on a subreddit about an obscure political podcast had more discussion than the NBA subreddit.
Does anyone with more backend knowledge know if this includes activity prior to the lemmy federation?
I'm really curious if this is really all from the same time period
Chapo.chat/Hexbear were having ancient struggle sessions when Lemmy was new. We posted long, we posted often and we posted in isolation. It's like training in the hyperbolic time chamber for 4 whole years.
They merely adopted shitposting. We were born in it. Moulded by it. We didn't touch grass until we were grown adults.
Hexbear presents itself as “an immense accumulation of shitposts." Our investigation must therefore begin with the analysis of a
it depends how you measure. I don't think the OP of that thread is really picking great measures. But regardless of the measure you pick we are not like, dominantly huge, just very active. (well except total comments, I think we still are 50% bigger than .world on that with our sizable user base and few year headstart.
ROOKIE: This is how we found him, sir. Who would do such a thing??
DETECTIVE: Tankies is who. The beans are their calling card. That or a picture of a pig shitting on it's balls.
ROOKIE: We're gonna find 'em and make 'em pay, sir.
DETECTIVE: Forget it, kid. This isn't like your training, Reddit's got no jurisdiction here. Best leave it be if you don't wanna end up BTFO with owl piss all over your shirt.
Their vision of the beanis instance is harshly disconnected from reality because they refuse to actually visit.
https://startrek.website/post/13395265/11418872 this comment is wild lmao
That's from @Emmie@lemm.ee, who was banned 2 days ago (CW for the removed comment) for fashposting
What has the world come to that we can’t spam pictures of real things at each other, like a pig with poop on its balls?
Can't see any pronouns on their profile or otherwise
Edit: confirmed, she is a woman.
"That’s doomer speak from too much scrolling. I once too believed these things for a time but the world hasn’t ended, improved even. I am no longer as depressed and regained clarity of mind. I hope you too can find peace and see the reason before all the time dwindles out like a sand from between your fingers.
I am typing it lying on my huge bed, with cat at my side, full fridge, iPhone, iPad, car with full tank in the garage, 100 sqm apartment I own in the comfy part of the city. Steady, mostly passive income. Free healthcare working ok, education.
Why would I want communism? I would have to be not okay in the head"
They're anti communist because they're bourgeois
You see, I have everything I need, in fact I don't even have to work. Be happy serf, for your lord is prospering and does not care to dwell on unhappy thoughts.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
It's crazy how people can type shit like that and seemingly not once consider that it makes them sound extremely out-of-touch.
Why be in touch with the rest of the world when you can be in touch with yourself (committing to absolute selfishness and calling it self care)
They genuinely think they are being “grateful” and “humble” for their privileged life by bragging about shit like this.
'100 sqm apartment I own in the comfy part of the city. Steady, mostly passive income. '
Landlord detected!
(It really is fucked up how many smug internet people like to imply mental illness, or any other personal disadvantage, means a person is fundamentally wrong about everything and should be unheard and invisible. Fucking Calvinist shit)
Met a peckerwood from lemmy.ml the other day who had the nerve to ask "how many [of Hexbear's posters in a subject about not supporting Kamala because we don't do genociders] are actually POC", didn't correct me any time I implied their crackery, pulled that same "lmao ur crazy" schtick, and then had the nerve to that very same day "as a POC" another thread like... These liberals have no fucking scruples, whatsoever
I’m comfortable so I no longer need to care
You won’t be comfortable for long motherfucker, one way or the other
- Show
They crossed that line between everyday villainy and cartoonist supervillainy
If you think you could game any system thrown at you, why be anti communist in the first place? If you're gonna be fine anyway and it's pretty clear she doesn't give a shit about anyone else, then why have an opinion on any political system? No matter the rule of Man or God this great Ozymandias who walks among us has the acuity to transcend and thrive in any political system and they're posting on a star trek forum about how communism bad?
Deeply unserious person
Like seriously why the fuck are they posting instead of actually enjoying their luxury, why do they think lording it over the internet peasants is a productive use of their time
She's a landlord. Her tenants need to be productive, she doesn't.
Steady, mostly passive income. Free healthcare working ok, education.
This happens so often. Talking to someone online who seems like the biggest oaf alive and then it's revealed they're a landlord/landlady
so self-centered they cannot imagine consciousness outside of themselves. wall
I am just SO blessed and it really humbles me when I consider how much I have to be thankful for.
These people should take a long walk off a short pier, or a long walk in Florida, either way
Julian Assange is a bootlicker and Kremlin stooge who sold us out to the American and Russian billionaires. The Mueller Report proved he was explicitly trying to get Treason Trump elected and working with Putin to push disinformation to that end.
Now who’s bringing up politics everywhere? Guess it’s ok when it’s MSNBC slop
Imagine quoting the Mueller Report in 2024 as if anyone gives a single shit
the Mueller Report proved so much that it is remembered only as an old man's wet fart
The world literaly just watched the American billionaire class coup the incumbent president through sheer media and money pressure.
But it was Assange that "sold us out". Biden's incompetence and evilness notwithstanding that is hilarious, like living in a cave.
Hexbear is Cao Wei, seeking to usher in a new era of peace and stability free of the corruption of the last dynasty. Even if it means cracking a few eggs. Alas, their fate is incompetence of their offspring, to be eventually overthrown by dynastic infighting after their glorious leader perishes
Show
.world is Shu Han, defenders of the status quo. They claim their heritage from
Show, though they are only 7th cousins. They care more about their military than their own children, often casting them aside.
.ml is the Kingdom of Wu, made up of many unique cultures, but always beset on all sides by conflict and corruption. Sometimes friend, sometimes foe, but largely irrelevant in the grand scheme.
Lemmy, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been.
You've been here for like less than a month but you are already my favorite poster.
I was on .ml for like a year but like a few others said, I jumped over after the dunk tank got blocked.
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I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
How I sleep knowing my enemies are ontologically evil and I am trapped in an eternal battle for the metaphysical nature of the universe
What a loser. Not only was I alive for 9/11, I fucking planned it
That link isn't working for me, but that Star Trek instance is full of a bunch of people who would be defending sanctuary districts if they were around today.
Debating whether or not to drop my hot take about why I don't think the libs should have been allowed to use Lemmy.
The Star Trek site banned me 3 months ago as a spammer and I don't even know why. Then despite being banned a few days ago they removed a comment I made with an aliexpress link.🤷 Fuck'em.
Can you truly say you’ve had the HB experience if you haven’t recieved emoji/sticker/gif spam from people who weren’t alive for 9/11,
That I was, and I distinctly remember cracking a joke about it shortly after to only get around 50 absolutely horrified faces after saying "i guess the talibans favorite football team was also the New York Jets"
have never been outside their country,
I've been to ten foreign countries so far enjoyed them more than seventeen out of the eighteen states I've been to in the U.S.
I think that could count as being modestly traveled as an individual.
and refuse to listen to opposing views
I do listen to opposing views, I just do what every normal person does afterwards and tell you your views are wrong when they're wrong.
That was from @Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website, who was banned 8 months ago for being reactionary after their comments were removed for being a smuglord and debate pervert, 2x for ableism, and for liberalism.
hexbear like every other american online community has a lot of american chauvinism, BUT it also has a lot of the good shit
Part of why lemmit sucks ass is because of an underlying belief that every person should be allowed to speak on a topic and that every person is worth listening to. It’s why it’s bursting at the seams with incoherent lib screeds such as this. The culture enables the extreme entitlement they feel to speak authoritatively on subjects they know jack shit about.
Mao had the correct stance: people with the political literacy lower than that of an infant should be barred from speaking. No investigation, no right to speak. They are not qualified to speak on anything of importance, they should be stopped from doing so, and anything they do say is entirely unworthy of any thought or consideration or debate - it is the fruit of the poisonous tree of ignorance and malice. You don’t try to make rotten fruit taste good, you only eat fruit that isn’t rotten. Yes we have a duty to educate but that is initiated by getting them to form a basic understanding of the topic, not entertaining their incoherent word salads or laboring over its particulars. When they produce something that is the product of actual knowledge and understanding, that is the time for correcting errors. Until then, shut the fuck up, lemmitor. Read a fucking book for once in your life.
A spectre
is haunting lemmy — the spectre of communism. All the powers of old Reddit have entered into a holy alliance to exorcise this spectre
It's hard to beat an operation with state funding.
Tell me you got a
without actually telling me you got a , lib.libs admitting that state planning is superior to the free market
Wait are you not getting paid? Xi's mailing me Camel Cash and (I get the irony of this) Marlboro cigarettes.
I was told taking State Funding counted as sectarianism against anarchists and haven't cashed my checks! I thought it was a trap
Which is why we're paid in tobacco and a (rival) tobacco company's store credit
Ugh, Marlboros? You might as well just smoke wall insulation, it'll fuck your shit up the same way
- Show
Making up shit out of whole cloth lol
To remember 9/11 you have to be at least in your late 20s or early 30s. Tells you something about these nerds that they think so badly of literally all young people.
I remember 9/11 very well, and anyone who lived in the last 25 years knows what it is like to live in the post-9/11 hysteria.
Moving to a different country actually reaffirmed my leftist positions. Turns out the more of society you see, the more left you are on average. It decimates all illusions. This is commonly known anyway, and represented in every electoral map for fucking ever
It’s ironic to accuse leftists of being unaware of other countries. When I was (more of) a lib I never learned that much about other countries. Now I’m reading a lot more books and watching a lot more non-English content from other points of view.
Just an FYI that fascist 3 arrows account emmie was doing 4chan shit here just a few days ago. The only thing that's "genuinely sad" is how nakedly obvious they're a hog's troll account rolling in its own shit and blaming us for the smell.
Going to London is about as far as many Americans get
And of course, the stereotypical European arrogance about being “well traveled” because they passed through a few countries on a day trip
I have some thoughts about travel as a way to acquire culture, perspective, and wisdom — or rather, the illusion of such. I might post about it sometime soon once I get my thoughts together, but basically at this point I’ve dialectically negated my old views of travel and decided that using travel as a means for enlightenment is a relic of colonial ideology. I don’t think one can learn much about other cultures without living among them for extended periods, years.
Ah yes, the European cosmopolitan, having vacationed everywhere and worked at one place, which obviously makes them worldly. Imo you don't really get to know a place until you have worked there, and even then it is just a small sliver of experience and you have to be intentional about going around and talking to people to really get a big picture look, a process that can take even concerted academics 3-5 years, which means the place will have changed moderately even by the time you have published the book.
It's so uncanny to be a fly on the wall in other parts of the fediverse, I started subbing to a bunch of hexbear comms only after seeing people with an axe to grind against hexbear specifically and getting curious. A vote for bart is a vote for anarchy.
Great job, comrade! I've all but abandoned lemmy.ml, it was getting too frustrating to deal with the constant .world anticommunism.
Honestly the main reason I've been meaning to make a hexbear account has been to access the dunk tank, because lemmy.ml blocks it now
That was the catalyst for me doing the same! I was only on Lemmy.ml before it started blocking the dunk tank.
Lemmy co-dev and noted transphobe tutonic came in to defend one of the .ml admins who was getting dunked on for defending CSAM, got dunked on himself and so blocked the whole comm.
Could just join a random small instance that don't block instances/comms on hexbear to continue being a fly-on-the-wall and access dunktank.
Spreadsheet of instances listing blocked instances and blocked by (BI and BB): https://github.com/maltfield/awesome-lemmy-instances
I was thinking of that, leaning towards just making a hexbear alt and continuing to moderate /c/transgender on the side.
"there's actually a lot of LBGT people there, based"
- Diva@lemmy.ml
Another person comparing traa a nazi bar:
This reads like someone telling me that the nazi bar is the only place to go because the nazi bar has people there all the time and the other bars are mostly empty.
Might as well just admit they've never been and have nothing to add to the conversation.
Every accusation is a confession from these chucklefucks. One of the most wholesome safe spaces for trans comrades? Must be Nazis!
Utterly disgusting behavior.
It's either the communism=nazism cliche or they heard this exact speech on reddit before, cause I have, being used in the exact same disingenuous manner to avoid looking at something they assume will be bad.
Traa has as many comments in half a month as mtf@blajah has had in its entire existance and as many in a week as trans@blahaj has made in total (the two largest non-hexbear trans subs afaik).
Never seen a reason to visit any other lemmy trans community.
It's always funny how everyone just throws out nonsense about hexbear because they don't know what to do with us.
There isn't a spot for "Anti-Capitalist leftist" in their shape sorting game, so they try to shove us in the "teenage trolls" hole, but we probably average closer to 27-30.
Then they try to fit us in the q-anon maga hole, but that clearly doesn't fit because we'll bite your head off if you come at our trans homies and all our conspiracies are admitted to by the FBI/CIA.
So they post things like "they love the N word that's why they got defederated" and people just believe it.
Me too, and Reaganism has won every election since
is this Lenin?
whataboutism 
