650k
Difference of 5 million
Obviously this is the left's fault!
Had a lib (of course with an Israel flag in their handle) legitimately tell me that Leftists successfully convinced millions not to vote over on Lemmy.world yesterday.
Damn, if we held so much power the dems should have done more to court our influence! Too bad they love genocide more than they want to win.
Literally what I told them, either Leftists didn't make a difference and Harris floundered on her own, or Leftists made a huge difference and Harris intentionally rejected them, failing.
I've had that same argument, turns into "well if she did that she'd lose more moderates than she'd gain leftists!!1!"
Tell em that Biden ran a more progressive campaign and churned out voters, same as Bernie, and voter turnout was far higher.
Not worth it, they're still seething let reality sink in a bit and let them get off "must defend Harris unconditionally" mode
Nah dunk on them while they're angry. Rub salt in the wound, wash it with iodine or clear alcohol and sterilize it.
we sneaky leftists tricked the democrat leadership into tacking to the right wing, thereby making it easy to disillusion and dissolve their bloc.
those smol bean millionaire consultants and party bosses walked right into our trap!
For sure, not trying to downplay it. Just funny how it’s off by an entire order of magnitude from what libs think we’re capable of at the moment.
It is worse than that because we had to get those witheld votes done in each individual state, not as a block, so we would have had to have organized state... organizations
Did they??? Fuck in my state there where like a dozen write ins generally one of em mine for PSL. Oh knows what the others were.
That's sweeet
315 in my super conservative county in FL
I need to find these people.
Wasn't there that website that fashies were using to track peoples voting records, maybe you could make friends with it 🫠
The ones that didn't vote are mostly disenfranchised life long Dems and Repubs, I fucking promise.
I 100% agree, that's why the situation is ripe for radicalization.
We have the power to convince people not to vote, but not to get them to vote for our candidate, apparently.
That shit really makes my blood boil. I work tirelessly at Langley to prevent that exact thing from happening! If a leftist is posting too good then I report them to get injected with cringe takes and nanobots. You think I'm just twiddling my thumbs if someone starts rocking the boat??? Sincerely, fuck you!
I have a bunch of coworkers who love using .world too! They sort of look at me funny because I have to monitor "that website where the pig shits itself." But .world and Langley are literally on the same side so it's extra hurtful when they belittle my job like that. It feels like a betrayal, honestly...
>Why are you sending me your dumbest liberals?
>You're my strongest poster
Leftists successfully convinced millions not to vote
and I'll do it again
Real "the enemy is both strong and weak" shit from libs these days
How the Israeli flag is not immediately subconsciously synonymous with disinformation for everyone at this point is beyond me.
Very encouraging to hear that there's 16,000,000 marxist leninists in America
If anything the people making fun of third party votes were probably far more successful at suppressing voter turnout.
I agree to an extent, my position is more that Harris fumbled the ball hard by not promising popular policies like Medicare for All or ending the genocide.
That day, four 19 year old pole-jockeys (not S.W term) got shifted from information systems to janitorial. For once, they'd have some use.
the schrodinger leftist who is simultaneously weak and pathetic, but also has the power to swing entire big country elections
It sometimes surprises even me how much more sense the world makes after reading theory. Like, of course the liberal with a fascist flag in their handle is using fascist rhetoric, "the enemy is both weak and strong." Marx and Lenin are vindicated every fucking day that passes.
Right & as if the democrats weren’t going to do the same damn thing
Australian news just blamed Latin Americans for Trump's win.
Lmao you can't make this shit up. Doesn't take much to get crackers doing racist shit.
Everything I hear about Australia makes it seem like they're desperately trying to let everyone know how reprehensible the ruling class there is
The ruling class (emboldened since Trump. Not the other day, the first time) is ramping up division to try and win elections because it really works on barely engaged proles.
They're hiring ad companies to throw anti labour ads on Facebook (which Australian millennials still use for some reason). Those ads weren't even true, Labor is no way that based, and they disguised them as shitposts instead of sponsored political attack ads.
Luckily the (relative) lack of Christian nationalists compared to the US means there's a much weaker Evangelical base.
Like
It's funny because they keep lumping Latine people into this big ball like they don't grasp that Latin America isn't a monolith
A Columbian isn't the same as an Argentinian isn't the same as a Dominican
The social stratum of these countries is just a complex and varied as any other nation
But nope, "y'all speak Spanish, so y'all the same"
And even when they acknowledge it there’s still lots of weird generalizations. Some journalist in 2020 said the Guatemalan diaspora voted Democrat because they’re all indigenous which is a huge lol if you know the demographics and culture of this country
heard the same thing in one of the italian news podcasts i listen to. straight up just "blacks and hispanics are misogynistic so they voted for trump". scratch a lib, etc
Death to America
I like how white people get a pass because everybody knee they'd do this.
57% of male Latinos went for Trump l, something like 75% of white males did.
Obviously it's the Latinos fault.
Oh and white women voted for Trump for a third straight election make sure to keep that in mind if another pussy hat protest pops up.
The fun part is even if that was true, it just makes the dems more incompetent because when he was running Bernie was doing incredibly well with that demo
If all these 'leftists' could just shutup about the ongoing genocide, then Harris might have won. Dick Cheney is better than these jokers.
If Harris gave a shit about the American people and put her money where her mouth is, she would have won. The Democrats are feeble and weak, and now they're paying the price for it.
Weak and feeble? Or actively aiding and abetting fascism? At some point the American electorate has to admit to themselves the Democrats are complicit.
Oh no, I'm not denying the fact that she's actively supporting fascism. The Democrats are horribly out of touch.
Dems can get the entire party to coalesce around a unified message overnight and kill a campaign in a week.
As long as its a progressive.
It's just a matter of their priorities.
They could have wiped the floor with Trump but that would have required them to advocate for progressive policies and they'd rather lose while having brunch with the Cheyneys and Branston of the world.
Just let the expendables in the periphery get exterminated I need 7 dollar iced coffee
Hey is it a democracy if I am forced to vote for a party I don't like?
Just checking.
The more you don't like it, the more democratic it is. If no one at all likes it, then that's democracy.
Democracy is all about holding your nose and making Tough Choices, sweaty
Democracy is a ritual, it has nothing to do with you having power within your government
Quick guys what's 69 million plus 650k?? It's more than 74 million right???
Lots of hardcore republicans where I'm at, and they're saying Trump's lead this time is proof that the last election was stolen. I wouldn't be surpeised if there was widespread voter fraud on the right, but I doubt it would be to the tune of millions to explain the gulf we witnessed.
The election was stolen when Trump was in office, but the dems were incapable of rigging it when they're the ones in power?
·20 days agoWhen in office, the dems have no power, they cannot pass any laws, cannot appoint any judges, nothing. When not in office, they are god.
Was there even a single swing state where third party voters made up the difference between Kamala and Trump??
I know y'all just love punching left. that's what got us into this mess. I guess there's no use in learning from it now seeing as you'll never really get to vote in an election again.
Op agrees with you. I don't blame you not realizing this is hexbear considering what you've probbably seen on ml.
Thanks for letting me know stranger. Seeing all these dumb takes on the other parts of Lemmy is just grinding me.
To add to what everyone else said, lemmy is basically an open source version of reddit. Anyone can create their own lemmy Instance and will have complete control over it just like any other website and can choose who they are linked with.
Lemmy.ml is the "original" website run by the creators of lemmy who are communists.It used to be an explicitly socialist website like hexbear but Its become full of liberals since people left reddit on mass for lemmy almost a year ago.
Lemme.ee is a generic website for anything so its basically like lemmy.ml but not run by communists.
sh.itjust.works is is similar to lemm.ee (a generic website for anything) but is run by reactionaries.
lemmy.world is basically just reddit. I don't recommend you have anything to do with that one.
explicitly socialist website like hexbear but Its become full of liberals since people left reddit on mass for lemmy almost a year ago.
It was lib before that too, numbers were way lower but before .world, .ee, sh.itsfulla.nazis etc there was mander, sopuli and beehaw. Beehaw defederated because they shat their pants before hexbear but you can still occasonally see mander and sopuli galaxy brain tkes on .ml
I'm talking about the other sections of Lemmy that hate any actual leftist takes and call leftists tankies
Yeah we are on Lemmy lol. I'm just a mess
Take refuge comrade. Rest here where it's mostly safe(aside from irony)
eww
in ramallah there is a street named after fidel castro so yeah lol
don't worry no more libs
Yes. Lemmy/the fediverse is this social media platform. It's like email where there are many independent domains that communicate with each other. The biggest servers are lemmy.world, lemm.ee, sh.itjust.works, lemmy.ml, and hexbear.net
Hexbear was separate from the rest until last year so that's why people say it isn't lemmy even though it is.
That's what the meme is showing. There was no instance where 3rd party voting took away from either main party candidate.
My brother In christ Kdolf lost the popular vote. 💀
If you add every every vote from every single third party to her she does not even come close to a path to victory.
Do you really think any of us who voted third party were ever going to vote for a genocidal, anti immigrant, imperialist cop? Third parties didn’t take away votes because those votes were not Harris’ by default; they gave a voice to people who otherwise wouldn’t have voted to express their disapproval of this rigged, exploitative system. And to top all that off, even if every third party voter was somehow mandated to vote for Kamala, she still would have lost.
I like how you say iirc as if you are remembering a fact that has been said instead of a line that has been fed to you to repeat without knowing that it is totally ungrounded in reality
How about we don't engage in a conspiracy where the party led by a Jewish Woman is 'stealing votes', think before you speak.
What took a lot of votes away was Kamala Harris losing 15 million voters because she couldn't turn left, kind of like famous politician Dale Earnhardt
Anyway here's a breakdown of the votes that were "taken away".
Incidentally saying they were "taken away" is incredibly stupid. The democrats are not owed anyones vote and assuming a person voting for Jill Stein would vote for Kamala Harris is flawed in a great many ways.
Hello, I'm not USian, but I would still like to take credit for making your libs heads explode. Who should I speak to?
Department of Basic Mathematics, I think. That's who I'm writing to, anyway.
