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  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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    3 months ago

    It's not a joke though Minnesota really does have the blandest trough slop in north america it's awful.

    They have this thing they call "hot dish" which is they dump green beans and cream of mushroom soup in a casserole dish and put tater tots on it. This is the height of Minnesotan cultural cuisine. I am not joking. It is not seasoned.

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    • gramxi [they/them]
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      3 months ago

      I am not of the mayo phenotype but I'd probably like that tbh

      • Hexboare [they/them]
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        3 months ago

        It shouldn't be completely bland if you saute some onion and garlic, that's the taste base of meals for like a thousand years

        Would be better with literally any spice

        • The_Jewish_Cuban [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          My sister has received significant praise for just adding Georgian seasoning to the old family potato salad recipe lol

        • Dessa [she/her]
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          3 months ago

          Green bean casserole is often topped with fried onions from a can. This helps but it is still a vile texture

    • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
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      3 months ago

      They have this thing they call "hot dish" which is they dump green beans and cream of mushroom soup in a casserole dish and put tater tots on it.

      I've made this! Well, a vegan equivalent with mushroom gravy I made myself. And I used frozen mixed veggies, not just green beans. Oh, and I seasoned it. And put some (vegan) cheese on it. But it was really good! Sure, it's not something I'd serve to anyone or even admit I enjoy (except anonymously on the internet, I guess), but like, it's almost a shepherd's pie situation, except with tots instead of mashed potatoes. Surprisingly good for a lazy meal, and lots of leftovers!

        • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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          3 months ago

          Making gravy is lazy if you're interested in cooking. Of course, if you don't like cooking that's a different story, but I don't consider gravy a very involved dish to make.

        • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
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          3 months ago

          Gravy is one of the laziest foods ever! I've made gravies while blackout drunk. I've made gravies while too high to function. It takes a little time (like 10 minutes, maximum) and some pretty constant stirring, but for the amount of tasty it adds to a dish, it's well worth it. It often feels like the gravy makes itself while I just stand there waiting for it to come together.

      • Breath_Of_The_Snake [they/them, comrade/them]
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        3 months ago

        yo, what's your mushroom gravy recipe? I'm always looking to try and improve mine. Next time though, try fried onions. That's the original and the crunchiness does wonders for the texture.

        • Are_Euclidding_Me [e/em/eir]
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          3 months ago

          Oh, it's a pretty straightforward, very lazy gravy! I make a roux with flour and oil, then add in broth while whisking vigorously to get rid of any clumps. Then I add a can or two of canned mushrooms and I season it with salt, pepper, soy sauce, maybe some msg, and herbs. Lots of herbs. Rosemary, sage, thyme, parsley, usually dried because that's what we have sitting around, but I bet fresh would be even better. We also have some, like, mushroom stir fry sauce (I don't exactly know what it is) that we found in an asian market, so I usually add some of that to get it more mushroomy.

          And yeah, I've done fried onions on a green bean casserole. In my mind that's different than a tater tot hot dish. I do love green bean casserole though!

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Forgive me for being prejudiced eurotrash but isn't a lot of "traditional" white American foods just branded processed foods hastily mixed together? Are fresh ingredients that hard to get your hands on? Has the knowledge of how to cook them been lost?

      • fox [comrade/them]
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        3 months ago

        A lot of "traditional" white American food rises from traditions of using government issued foodstuffs. Government cheese, spam, various concoctions devised from military rations. But quite a lot also comes from what immigrant communities were able to afford, which was generally the worse stuff. There's also a not-insignificant number of white households that possessed no generational cooking knowledge because it was done by slaves, and thus had no culinary culture they could continue without the requisite skills.

        • copandballtorture [ey/em]
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          3 months ago

          A lot of the Americanization process encouraged immigrants to give to their customs and replace them with American substitutes. Shitty food is a result of generations of urban working class proles fed on cheap "American approved" slop and losing their customs and knowledge

      • M68040 [they/them]
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        3 months ago

        A lot of the weird stuff is a holdout from the Great Depression and the years after refrigeration became ubiquitous

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
        hexagon
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        3 months ago

        Are fresh ingredients that hard to get your hands on?

        I mean we have food deserts here for one thing. I imagine theres more to the answer to your question, but thats one thing I can mention.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 months ago

        Many people who come to a us grocery store for the first time are shocked at how cheap meat is, and how expensive fresh veg is.

      • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        It's sort of a 50/50 split between standard poverty meals adapted by time and region, and recipes invented by marketing campaigns to sell processed slop.

    • FactuallyUnscrupulou [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Upstate NY beats out Minnesota in the bland food category, all they have is buffalo sauce w/ bleu cheese. Most of the restaurants I go to don't even salt the food, at least Campbell's cream of mushroom is packed full of sodium. Sponge candy is bland, they used to produce brown beans that everyone acknowledged needed to have ingredients added to give them flavor, and even the hotdogs have a weird texture because they're ground so fine and not smoked. Don't even get me started on salt potatoes or garbage plates.

        • FactuallyUnscrupulou [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          What frustrates me so much about garbage plates is how inferior they are to typical Midwest summertime grilling meals. Gimme some brats and sloppy joes with coleslaw or pasta salad and a pile of Old Dutch ripple chips to scoop up any loose bits.

          • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]
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            3 months ago

            Just going off visuals here, oven roasted potato, macaroni salad with a dash of paprika, yellow onion and extra mayo, with maybe some mozzarella cheese sprinkled on top and then melted under some unseasoned hamburger.

            • FactuallyUnscrupulou [he/him]
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              3 months ago

              There is a burger patty or hotdogs under the melted cheese. That stuff on top is called meat sauce in Rochester, it's skyline chilli but locals will get mad at you if you say that.

              • IronJoe1984 [comrade/them, he/him]
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                3 months ago

                There are vegan versions as well with portobello mushrooms and lentils. Both are solid, but only when your drunk at 3 in the morning.

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 months ago

        Depends on what you mean by upstate, anything between NYC and Albany tends to still be good but go north or west of Albany and it's gonna get as bad as you said

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        • FactuallyUnscrupulou [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          I don't spend much time in the Hudson valley, but I can assume proximity to the coast would improve the quality. I think it's overall an issue with restaurants not using much butter or salt due to folks being more health conscious. Food like chicken riggies and spiedies are generally something I enjoy but only if I make it myself and add those rich ingredients.

    • LocalOaf [they/them, ze/hir]
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      3 months ago

      Made "hot dish" with refried beans, fried onions and queso and topping it with crushed tortilla chips instead of cream of mushroom soup and green beans makes a pretty good half-assed taco casserole kinda thing tbh, tater tots are a nice base to add assorted slop to in a baking pan and just chuck it in the oven for awhile.

      chefs-kiss

      Cream of mushroom soup is nasty though, so are any kind of pasta/potato salads where the main ingredient is mayo, and "Waldorf salad" is an affront to apples

      • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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        3 months ago

        It's sad because homemade mushroom soup with cream is actually really nice, the canned stuff is kinda horrifying and it's basically white person umami for casseroles

        • HamManBad [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          I swear the canned cream of mushroom used to actually be decent. Pretty sure corporate fucked it over the last few decades

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 months ago

        As a general rule if you couldn't walk to the sea in one day of forced march the "salad" isn't a salad.

    • Dessa [she/her]
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      3 months ago

      Nah, that's "green bean casserole." That's the ONLY hotdish we DON'T call hotdish. Ive always seen it with fried onions, not tots, but everyone makes a hotdish a little differently.

      There's a thousand kind of hotdishes and there are good and bad ones, I guarantee you.

    • Breath_Of_The_Snake [they/them, comrade/them]
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      3 months ago

      I'll die on the hill that the only issue with green bean casserole is that it isn't vegan. Its' meant to be communal, if made properly the contrast between the softness and the crunch create an inviting texture, it is quite possibly the only way to sneak both soy sauce and black pepper into a dish that middle America won't question, it was designed to be cheap and therefore accessible, no authentic version has tater tots, no authentic version is unseasoned, for the less unadventurous it benefits greatly from adding even more spice (paprika, garlic powder, and sprinkle some herbs on top of the onion. if making a vegan version use a but less cashews than you would normally use for a vegan cream of mushroom. I don't know why, it just works better.). Also, if you like the taste of hot peppers but not the heat, its a great vehicle for cutting the heat so much you can still dump some capsicum bomb on there.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 months ago

        I am channeling Lenin and screaming "utopianism! Utopianism!"

        There might be some theory of edible green bean casserole or edible hot dish. It might work on paper. You might look at the recipe and think "mmm, yes, i can see the appeal."

        But on earth? Where people live and die? No such thing exists, nor could it.

        • Breath_Of_The_Snake [they/them, comrade/them]
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          3 months ago

          But it can’t be a utopian dish if I’ve actually made variations of it. It’s Eutopian.

          Fr though I would die from shame if Lenin wakes up and insults my cooking. Breath of the snake has served a silly dish, I won’t be trying it.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    3 months ago

    it's funny that white people hate spices! Not racist at all! Just funny!

    Yeah, glad to see you admit it

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
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      3 months ago

      It's especially funny how his particular way of getting mad about something is to be all "yeah, that's amusing isn't it?!??!"

      And it almost always is lmao

      • tocopherol [any]
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        3 months ago

        Reading Shapiro's tweet I seriously wasn't sure if it was sarcastic or not for a moment. My response to basically any rhetorical white right wing "questions" like "do you want white people reduced and just immigrants everywhere in America?" And I'm like actually yeah, that sounds fine ??

        • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          It's funny when they act out and say shit like "I bet you want to institute communism and put me in a gulag"

          Only 'cause you asked so nicely, bro.

    • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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      3 months ago

      I have to say... it wasn't until you pointed it out that i realized he wasn't being cool for once. He meant the opposite? I'm wowee

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    3 months ago

    It's not racist because white people are entirely unharmed by it, dipshits.

    • Thallo [love/loves]
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      3 months ago

      Excuse me, haven't you seen how harmed they are on Twitter? :(

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        • asg101 [none/use name, comrade/them]
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          3 months ago

          That's the thing about Nat-Cs, they can't stand the thought of anyone celebrating any holiday other than the one they stole.

        • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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          3 months ago

          And you just know those igno's just listened uncritically to Bing Crosby sing "happy holidays" on their way to the mall. Mf boomers cant even look up the fact the saying's been around as long as they have, and it means "merry christmas and happy new year"

          Yes i have, yes. At the gap and the buckle. Fuck

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            • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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              3 months ago

              Yeah and if you tell them that they'll just go "well no Ripley was well written! We're fine with well written women!"

              And its so blatantly obvious that no, the difference isnt the writing, its that reactionary youtube grifters werent around in 1986 to tell them what to be mad at. I've literally seen them call Chell from Portal "well written" in this way, for fuck's sake she doesnt fucking speak. If the reactionairy grift Network had been around when Portal came out they'd hate Chell too. An unsexualized woman protagonist in a game? WOKE!

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              • Dessa [she/her]
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                3 months ago

                They're the reason "you can't release Blazing Saddles today."

            • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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              3 months ago

              Someone would definitely do a six hour video on why hicks is soy and how he promotes the woke agenda to emasculate men.

        • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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          3 months ago

          Totally honest i don't eat sour cream either but my wife tears it up. i got to try legit Mexican tacos once and since then, i like a little goat cheese crumble if i can get it or nothin cuz wifey makes a mean mango salsa anyway.

          I don't have a point

          • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            See if you can get Crema Fresca sometime, it's the Mexican version of sour cream, similar but different, a little lighter. Your wife will probably like it.

            If you can't buy it try adding a little water or milk to your sour cream to thin it and maybe a pinch of salt to dull the sourness. It's what I do when I can't get crema.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        But how do you eat them? Those stupid white people shells disintegrates the moment you bite into them.

        • Dolores [love/loves]
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          3 months ago

          sour cream adhere a flour tortilla to the crunchy one.

          or just carefully balance it and scoop the crumbles and fallen filling into your mouth like a gremlin

          • Breath_Of_The_Snake [they/them, comrade/them]
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            3 months ago

            Can't find it rn, but a dude made a taco holder and recorded himself eating a taco over an empty shell so that the drippings fell into the empty shell. Galaxy brained shit, making another taco with the one you are currently eating.

        • the_post_of_tom_joad [any, any]
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          3 months ago

          There is a brand i really like that would change your mind about crunchy shells, and making your own can be delicious. Crunchy shells don't have to explode in your hand and break into daggers in your mouth

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 months ago

          Riiight?! You don't! You don't eat them! You walk down the fucking conga line of sadness diligently assembling your shitty flavorless tacos and getting your shitty more salt than potato chips and your shitty both under and over ripe flavorless fruit salad and then you go sit down with all these big puffy white faces with shitty hair and shitty clothes laughing out loud at jokes which are in no way funny or else sneering at each other miserably, and the smell is awful and everyone's teeth are stained yellow by nicotine and you try to bite the fucking thing and it comes apart and then you're just staring at this demolished mess of flavorless tomato chunks and flavorless beef and vaguely petroleum scented flavorless "cheese" and your little six year olf brain is thinking "this can't be it. There must be more to life than this. I need to get out of this fucking place".

          The 80s fucking sucked.

    • Dessa [she/her]
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      3 months ago

      You ever had one of those taco bags where you fill a bag of fritos with taco slop? God, I love that shit

    • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      3 months ago

      I used to fry up a bunch of onion and mix it with ground beef and refried beans, along with a packet of "taco seasoning". I called it taco slop and it was basically a higher grade microwave burrito filling, lol.

    • TraschcanOfIdeology [they/them, comrade/them]
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      3 months ago

      I'm not against the flavor combo, but the delivery method seems really underwhelming to me. Like, I could have all of this on a plate of nachos and enjoy it way more.

  • buh [she/her]
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    3 months ago

    tacos that are pretty much just ground beef and cheese is something white people really do though. not all white people of course, but it's a thing and not rare at all

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      3 months ago

      A fried flour tortilla with unseasoned ground beef, shredded cheese, big chunks of tomato, and lettuce. They're so gross. Shops selling something like a mexican street taco has started to pop up and it's so nice bc white people tacos aren't fit to feed dogs.

      • Edamamebean [she/her]
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        3 months ago

        See the problem here is the unseasoned ground beef. You've gotta pour in one of those old el paso taco seasoning pouches in there.

      • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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        3 months ago

        Show

        This youtube comment I found where someone ended up liking them was kinda cute though.

        I like the white people tacos lol. Other than the tomatoes which Ive hated since I was a kid.

          • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
            hexagon
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            3 months ago

            I dont even have tomato sauce on pasta lol. (Though actually, my sister put some sauce on the pasta she made me a coupled days ago, but when I make it for myself). Just olive oil and parmesan. Alfredo is also good for a special treat. But tomato sauce I am no particular fan.

            I am ok with it on pizza though. But not when there are visible chunks between the cheese and the crust. Hate that.

            • ryepunk [he/him]
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              3 months ago

              You gotta make your own tomato sauce. Me and my partner get a thing of feta, a quart of grape tomatoes, some onion and garlic. Bake for like an hour with olive oil and pepper and other spices you like. Blend that up and serve with a protein and type of pasta you like.

              • Hexboare [they/them]
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                3 months ago

                Only an hour? This is tomato heresy

                You only get the best flavours after 8-12 hours of slow cooking

                • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  3 months ago

                  I’ve found 4-5 hours to be my hot spot, with San Marzano tomatoes. Beyond that it reduces too much and doesn’t taste better. Less than that is okay… but it’s better at about four hours.

                • ryepunk [he/him]
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                  3 months ago

                  If I ever become that prepared for cooking I'll have to give that a try. Haha sounds good though

              • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                3 months ago

                I love San Marzano tomatoes! And let it cook for like four or five hours to get sugary. That’s what I do, at least, and it turns out woooonderful :3

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 months ago

          Why did the ground beef look orange? The beef looked orange and the congealed fat was always bright neon orange? What was that? What the hell were they feeding us?

      • SuperZutsuki [they/them]
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        3 months ago

        You think white people are actually frying their tortillas?

        Straight out of the bag, cold, meat and cheese, roll it up and that's a taco to most whities

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 months ago

          No, no, they have "taco shells" that come in boxes at the grocery store. It's a stale, fried, u-shaped tortilla "taco shell." Comes right out of the box.

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          • GrouchyGrouse [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            That movie is extremely accurate in its depiction of small town white people in the 90s. School was 80% white, the rest were Mexican or Native, and there was like 3 black kids. The Ls in words like "Tortilla" were out in force.

        • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          Nah the real experience is putting so much wet beef in there that you couldn't possibly roll it up, and then having it explode all over your plate after one bite

      • BobDole [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        This is the shit my midwestern parents fed me as a kid even though we lived like 100 miles from Mexico. It wasn’t until we were slightly less broke that I experienced flavor.

      • Ishmael [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        When I was a kid growing up in the Midwest, this is what I thought tacos were. And then a friend took me to a legit Mexican joint as a teenager and my mind was blown

      • Bnova [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        I know this is a joke, but my dad calls cumin come-in. He also called Chipotle chi-pot-le unironically for years. But that's what you get when you grow up in a place named Mudlake.

    • regul [any]
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      3 months ago

      Yeah and they're great. White people tacos are a distinct, low-effort species from Mexican tacos.

      Hot tip: to make your white people tacos meat stretch further, add black beans!

      • buh [she/her]
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        3 months ago

        yeah the low effort aspect is one of the things about it that makes it a perfectly valid variation and I'm not just saying that in a backhanded way, sometimes you don't have time to slow cook meat or marinate it and set up the grill

        my favorite way to "elevate" it is to add about 1-2 tablespoons of tomato paste after the ground beef browned, mix it it and let it simmer on low heat covered for 5-15 minutes

    • SoyViking [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      The northern European white people taco consists of:

      • Hard shell
      • Ground beef, that has been "fried", ie. broken up in a skiltet that is too small and boiled in it's own juices until grey and nasty with stone of store bought "taco seasoning" (mostly salt and yeast extract but also trace amounts of cumin and other spices)
      • Shredded wet iceberg lettuce
      • Sugary store bought salsa, either "medium" (someone showed the jar a picture of a jalapeno) or "mild" (essentially chunky tomato ketchup)
      • Shredded cheese from a bag
      • "Guacamole", either a combination of sour cream, avocado and a pouch of premixed seasoning or some ungodly shelf-stable green cream cheese concoction
      • Two or three slices of pickled jalapeno if you're really adventurous

      Supermarkets promote this as "Mexican" food.

      • ryepunk [he/him]
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        3 months ago

        My store has a Mexican aisle in the normal numbered aisle sections, which is basically white people taco supplies. And mexican imports in the world food aisles that is actual food from mexico.

      • Dessa [she/her]
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        3 months ago

        I grew up thinking I hated guacamole because of that nasty-ass shelf-stable shit

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        3 months ago

        Reading through this, i'm realizing that this dog vomit excuse for food not only left scarsfor years, it dug deep.

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  • Default_Defect@midwest.social
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    3 months ago

    I had to BEG my mom to season the ground beef for white people tacos, because "I bought the cheese that has taco seasoning in it, why does it need more?"

    Growing up in a town with a good amount of hispanic influence and incredible food spoiled me.

    • GorGor@startrek.website
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      3 months ago

      I knew a mormon family in southern California who made the whitest tacos Ive ever had. Flour Tortillas (not even heated up), unseasoned ground beef, spring mix, and Catalina dressing instead of taco-sauce. Rough.

      LA area has some amazing Mexican food, its where I learned the term guisado. I don't understand some people.

      • Default_Defect@midwest.social
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        3 months ago

        I bet my mom would love those tacos.

        Thankfully, she realized that seasoning doesn't necessarily mean heat or excess salt and is better about seasoning food now and we found a hole in a wall that does really good mexican food that she likes too.

    • buh [she/her]
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      3 months ago

      lathe-of-heaven He's going to make a video trying to prove Tim wrong but ends up proving him right