Fuck ada tbh, has done fuck all to protect trans people and has done a fuckton to protect the kind of people that say this shit. There's even more shit in the thread here: https://lemmy.ml/post/22194896

its a fucking shitshow dear god i dont know how marcie survives the sea of morons

its very strange to see trans servers and sites that are so pathetic at actually defending trans people and educating the cis people around them. Trans spaces are for trans people, and while cis people are allowed, any weird shit from them should get them an immediate ban. Several of the shit talkers are just cis randos giving their hateful opinion.

thank god for people like Kristina and TC_69 to have a competent defense of trans people.

  • qcop [they/them]
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    21 days ago

    All these people shitting on hexbear made me discover it a few months ago. I was kinda accepting shitty things on other Lemmy instances such as libbed up shit and anti veganism as Im used to it IRL.

    Finding hexbear was a godsent. The coomunity always feels very nice. I learn a lot of historical shit and can re experience the feeling of message boards on the late 90s early 2000s.

    I still have no clue how to use the emoji pictures everyone's been using though. I copied one once in a post and gave up in all my subsequent ones lmao

    • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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      20 days ago

      I still have no clue how to use the emoji pictures

      There's a menu button here (at least on desktop) that shows the whole list, grouped by category:

      Show

      Otherwise, just type a colon and start typing a word after it (with no spaces) to bring up the inline emoji picker, which will try to search on emoji name and/or keyword, e.g., blahaj is :blahaj: but typing :trans will also show it in the list, because it has been tagged with "trans" as a keyword.

      • keepcarrot [she/her]
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        20 days ago

        The emote previews take so long to load for me. I only ever use the kelly one for puns mostly, but it's not the first result for kelly

        • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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          20 days ago

          These need some sort of caching mechanism. The UI is ass too because you can't see what is loaded/not-loaded, and everything shifts as it loads.

          • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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            20 days ago

            It's intentional. By forcing people to memorize a bunch of obscure emoji tags we're rewiring their brains into an understanding of the immortal science of Marxism-Leninism

            This is called materialism

            • ProletarianDictator [none/use name]
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              20 days ago

              True, but this should probably be tackled upstream.

              Like adding (some subset of) emoji using the cache storage API in the lemmy-ui project.

              Idk if thumbnails are ever generated for the images either or just served raw from pict-rs, but IMO lemmy should be downscaling emojis to common resolutions for use in the UI, so users aren't loading 400 thicc ass image files just to open the picker. Would also decrease bandwidth usage on threads that have a bunch of emotes.

    • Leon_Grotsky [comrade/them]
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      20 days ago

      If you know the name of it you can do :emoji-name: and if you want to see the name of an emoji someone else used you can press the "View Source" button on their comment (looks like a piece of paper) to see it's text code or hover your mouse over it.

      For example logo is : logo : (without the spaces)

      Alternatively, as you are typing up a comment there is a little smiley face button above the text field you can press for a little emoji selecter ui.

    • RedWizard [he/him, comrade/them]
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      20 days ago

      First you type a : then a menu pops up. That's only if your on the web (best experience). I usually use Voyager and it has no Emoji menu or support in the comment/post editor (bad experience).

  • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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    21 days ago

    Agreed. Hexbear especially is using trans people primarily as a shield against criticism. You will not find a community there.

    Speaking as an admin that had to deal with them.

    So, how did we scratch natebluehooves@pawb.social ? I've yet to see a salty admin that didn't act like a chauvinist piece of shit before malding over us.

    • BountifulEggnog [she/her]
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      20 days ago

      You will not find a community there.

      :agony-shivering: I hate this shit so much. Hexbear is the best community I have ever been a part of.

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        20 days ago

        So they can't take a joke and are so rabidly anticommunist they get scared by cute ushanka emojis, got it.

      • Rom [he/him]
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        20 days ago

        lmao one of those screenshots is nothing but two users discussing how to use emojis on hexbear.

        https://pawb.social/pictrs/image/9bcb80d4-5e2b-4b20-ab1c-c907b77605c2.png

        How dare they have emojis with hats grill-broke

        • barrbaric [he/him]
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          20 days ago

          Ayyyy that's me explaining how emojis work! Good to know that being generically helpful is evil and spooky.

      • PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS [he/him, they/them]
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        20 days ago

        I had no idea they cited my post for this

        michael-laugh

        I posted shitjustworks into defederation pretty much single-handedly, but I had no idea this instance even existed

      • PaX [comrade/them, they/them]
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        20 days ago

        I lament that almost all the furry federated social media platforms I know of are run by extremely tech-brained international-community-1international-community-2 turbo-libs doggirl-gloom

        • Esoteir [he/him]
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          20 days ago

          if it makes you feel any better pawb social seems to average around the same amount of users as just the /c/furry hexbear comm alone does, with a front page post getting like 40 upvotes after an entire day lmao

      • REgon [they/them]
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        20 days ago

        I rremember that! fun times, miss all the libs we could dunk on. Miss all the obvious lies and accusations of brigading too brigading

    • JohnBrownsBussy2 [she/her, they/them]
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      21 days ago

      I know that I helped get us de-fedded from pawb by making a version of the Grover (of Groverhaus game) Iraq war copypasta in reference to Blahaj Zone. I'm sure there were other incidents, but I remember that my post was cited specifically.

    • kristina [she/her]M
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      20 days ago

      zionism baked into every fiber of their being

      also the survey clearly shows we are using the cis people here as human cannon fodder in the posting wars very-smart

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        20 days ago

        I hear that in Soviet Hexbear, they use cis human wave attacks, and only one in every two cis people are even given a weapon!

        • kristina [she/her]M
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          20 days ago

          whenever a poster falls another takes up their keyboard to keep posting, because they dont have enough keyboards

      • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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        20 days ago

        Crackers like those is deadass why I stopped dallying with white queers, all the way around. I won't organize with them, I won't date them, I won't cede them emotional intimacy, I won't even concede them physical intimacy. I don't fuck genocidal sellouts; honestly, I don't even want to know genocidal sellouts. To get in my bed, in my social circle, or in my organization, you need more melanin in you than the whole mass of these chalky bleach-demons; if you one of these sharkfuckers, I'm really finna look the other way when you get hassled in these streets.

        I won't claim 'em. Poof, vamoose, spawn of a snitch. You need an Actual intersectional lifestyle, not Blahaj's consumer-crackery that hasn't a qualm in the world about knobslobbing cops, corporates, and fucking Mossad to be around me.

    • Thallo [love/loves]
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      20 days ago

      Human shields? We're literally the majority of the site lol

    • Awoo [she/her]
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      20 days ago

      Indistinguishable from IDF genocider rhetoric.

      People like this would murder us all given the opportunity, cis or trans, doesn't matter.

      • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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        20 days ago

        Honestly with the way pawb preemptively went? I suspect either nazifurs or burnedfurs in their admin staff. (Today on 'venn diagrams that are nearly a circle...') You don't just preemptively defederate from a hard-progressive (read: from anarchist to ML) instance without having some fascist scum in you.

        • HomoSexualTransStalinist [she/her]
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          20 days ago

          i realised mixed it up with the anarchist solarpunk instance, pawb actually defedded us around the same time as we defederated blahaj

  • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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    21 days ago

    I expect nothing of the consoomer-queers or the instance they infest; these are the same people that ROUTINELY sell Pride out to cops and corporates, forgetting the faces of their mothers every time they do so. Forever the weakest links. I expect nothing but three-nos, gold-stars and Blaire White-expies.

  • Yukiko [she/her]
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    20 days ago

    After allowing 196 and chasers into their space, did you expect anything less? shrug-outta-hecks

  • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    21 days ago

    most people are on the lemmyverse are liberals and the same is true for trans people.

    it's depressing to see them coalesce around the same people that put them in this situation that they're in to begin with and we can't stop them from making that choice.

    whose Kristina and TC_69? are they in the post somewhere? (i can't find them)

    • HelltakerHomosexual [she/her, comrade/them]
      hexagon
      M
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      edit-2
      21 days ago

      Oh they're not in the post, Kristina is a top mod here, and TC69 was a previous admin

      both had a very large role in making hexbear a fortress for trans users

        • bazingabrain
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          20 days ago

          Kristina used to be more active, TC_69 left a while ago, before i joined i think. So i don't think so, no.

          • kristina [she/her]M
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            edit-2
            20 days ago

            smh yall talking about me like im a ghost chomsky-yes-honey

            i have been fairly busy lately tho

          • eldavi@lemmy.ml
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            20 days ago

            thanks, i was confused because i thought i missed them somehow in the post.

            how long had it been for those two?

            • barrbaric [he/him]
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              20 days ago

              Kristina's last post was a minute ago, I think she just used to post more.

              TC69 hasn't posted on her main account in 3 years and stepped down from being an admin before that. There's always a chance that she's still posting under an alt.

        • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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          20 days ago

          okay why do I keep seeing emojis of what looks like Angela Ziegler, but prefaced with 'top'

          Mercy is not a top; Pharah's DEFINITELY the damagedom in that relationship

  • Ambii [she/her, they/them]
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    edit-2
    20 days ago

    haven't really looked at the ikea fanclub instance since i deleted my account a few months ago and it's always nice to get a reminder of why i try to avoid posting there or even just look at it in general.

    • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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      20 days ago

      it’s always nice to get a reminder of why i try to avoid posting there or even just look at it in general.

      When I accidentally wonder into a trans thread on someplace like blahaj or beehaw, I'm always like "wtf is with these comments?" and then check the instance...

      • frauddogg [they/them, null/void]
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        edit-2
        20 days ago

        Why I'm glad I'm on an instance that doesn't fed with them or Beehaw-- I'd be crashing out on those polly-assed mfers so much more frequently.

  • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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    20 days ago

    Serious question: is it not callous as hell for myself, as a cishet dude, to be telling trans people in the US that the negative outcome here was coming either way? What's a better line to take?

    • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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      20 days ago

      myself, as a cishet dude, to be telling trans people in the US that the negative outcome here was coming either way?

      Are you being asked? Because I generally would not assume that trans people would either ask you, as a cishet, or hold unsolicited advice from you on this topic in high regard. I'd suggest just focusing on other issues.

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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        20 days ago

        I'm not being asked, but I have some friends and I don't really know what's a good way to navigate this situation since I really don't want to come across like I'm gloating.

        • Thallo [love/loves]
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          20 days ago

          All off the most aggressive anti-trans shit happened under Biden's administration.

          But yeah, there's pretty much no way you can say that without being called an asshole.

          • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@lemmy.today
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            20 days ago

            Even if you are trans... people stuck believing they should back the blue no matter who don't like having that narrative contradicted, much less by the people they use as an excuse to back said party. To be fair, its a comforting lie to believe that one of the big formal powers in the country has your interests at heart...

    • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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      20 days ago

      First of all, it's good to show empathy. A Trump presidency is scary for every trans person that isn't Caitlyn Jenner levels of privileged. That doesn't change the fact that the Biden admininistration did literally nothing for trans people, or that Kamala refused to even performatively pay lip service to our struggles, or that Democrat support for our rights happens exclusively on the state level and isn't reliable even there. It's a party scared of standing up for us and ready to throw us under the bus at a moment's notice. But having the people who conducted the early stages of trans genocide on the state level now in charge federally does make a difference, even when it's the difference between standing by idly while we are hunted or actively endorsing that hunt. It's even felt here in Europe. I have a friend with family in America who is scared her loved ones might get deported, i have another friend who planned to get a type of bottom surgery only available in the US and who just realized this may no longer be an option for her. These news hit very close to home and that should be recognized.

      However, it's also important for trans people to understand that voting was never going to save us. We need to fight on other fronts, we need to organize, form mutual aid networks, build coalitions with other groups that are under increased threat now, go out and protest, agitate etc. etc. We particularly need help from cis allys. Listen to what worries us. Maybe trans people around you need help getting out of state, or know people who plan to move to your state and need practical support with that, from having a place to crash to finding a new home to just having somebody there to unload furniture. Many people are struggling to pay for gender affirming care, or may have to travel out of state to even access it. Even if you do not know trans people irl, there will be situations where you encounter transphobia. As a cishet dude, you can push back against that without being worn out by it the same way we are. Use that. I've heard way too many stories about friends getting insulted or assaulted and nobody was there to step in. Be that guy when you see something. Speak up when you hear something. These are times of struggle and we need every man, woman and nonbinary person who's willing to fight on our side.